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SXSW Tuesday Morning: Conversations and Games







SXSW Tuesday Morning: Conversations and
Games

SXSW Tuesday Morning: Conversations and
Games
03/13/2003 10:25 AM

I session-hopped; too many interesting sessions this morning. Cliff Figallo talks about "Putting conversation to work." He's one of the founders of The Well and lived on The Farm, a well-known hippy commune, for years; Stewart Brand, the creator of The Well, wanted people with communal experience running it, not businesspeople. "Attention is energy," he says: the person being attended to gets energy from it, including people who are being jerks. Conversations that work, he says, are different than ones where people connect for enjoyment. He's thinking of conversations as something that organizations do to get their jobs done....




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Debugging conversations

There's one particular method of conversation that can be annoying as hell, if you do not understand it. I call it "debugging", as I seem to most hit it in the technology-savvy crowd. It also seems to be the weapon of choice in many net conversations, especially in the USENET.

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chairsThe Idea: A summary of the importance of conversation as a catalyst of cultural evolution, the seven purposes of conversation, some 'cultural anthropology' on how conversations 'operate' today, and a first stab at some rules or principles we could learn and adopt to produce better, more effective and productive conversations.

In my article Seeing the Big Picture (Building a Bigger Frame) I argued for the need for more expansive thinking to encompass, understand and build on different points of view, rather than reinforcing and polarizing those points of view through parochial and antagonistic argument. One of the crucial tools we use to exercise and expand our thinking is conversation, and it occurred to me that if we want to learn to think in ways that transcend the old, learning to converse in ways that transcend the old might be a good place to start. Humberto Maturana has said:

Human existence takes place in the relational space of conversation. This means that, even though from a biological perspective we are Homo Sapiens, our way of living - that is to say, our human condition - takes place in our form of relating to each other and the world we bring forth in our daily living through conversation.

If you're like me, you've engaged in your share of eavesdropping in public places -- restaurants, bars, elevators, cocktail parties, subway trains. What is disturbing is not that the subject matter and arguments are usually inane (though they are), but that the syntax, the flow, and the composition of the conversational threads are so awkward, sloppy, selfish and extravagant. It's been said that conversation is like a dance: It requires some grace, some courtesy to avoid stepping on your partners' toes, and agreement on who (at any point) is leading and who is following. Perhaps this is why conversations that involve three or more people at once are often so clumsy, more like a sequence of two-person conversations one after the other with (to strain the dance analogy) different people constantly butting in, usually before the song in progress has properly ended.

Recently I read a wonderful quote that went something like this: Are you listening or just waiting your turn to talk? Sound like someone you know?

A recent article< /a> by Australian Open Space practitioner Alan Stewart suggests five purposes for conversation: learning, reassurance, building trust, "working out what is important" and entertainment. Here's (I think) a more complete list from one of my 2003 posts:
  • Educating: teaching or learning something useful or interesting
  • Conceptualizing: Thinking out loud, organizing and articulating thoughts, challenging, understanding something better, reassuring
  • Rehearsing: practicing to improve language skills
  • Socializing: finding people with similar ideas, interests or ambitions
  • Convincing: selling, seducing, persuading, engaging, building trust
  • Assisting: helping others or getting help
  • Entertaining: amusing, escaping, overcoming boredom, indifference, loneliness, shyness, or low self-esteem
It's humbling to note that Bernd Heinrich provides examples in Mind of the Raven of all seven of these purposes to various raven vocalizations. And in his examples, ravens seem to be decidedly better at it than most humans. Perhaps that's due to the fact they've been around longer than we have, so they've had more practice at it. It couldn't be just that they have better manners, could it? ;-)

In his article Stewart says:

From circles of elders around ancient campfires to the conversations in the cafés and salons that spawned the French Revolution, people have always gathered for real conversation about questions that matter. In those times and places where innovation is born other simple conditions are also present. In addition to pursuit of a question that really matters and commitment to creating the space and time to explore it, it is crucial that mutual listening and a spirit of discovery infuse the conversations. A certain type of "magic" appears—the magic of a new collective intelligence arising from the individual minds present in the conversation. The wisdom needed to address the concerns of any group is already "in the middle of the circle" waiting to be tapped. These webs of conversations and the action commitments that naturally arise from them can serve as the energy generator, the amplifier, the core unit of change force for co-evolving the future in any system.

He quotes Konrad Lorenz' on the hazards of conversation: "Said is not heard; heard is not understood; understood is not agreed to; agreed to is not carried out". This is a more concise way of laying out the enormous intellectual and emotional challenge entailed in conversation that I described in my That's Not What I Meant article . Here is a recap of my amateur observations about conversations from that post:
  • Linguistics professor Deborah Tannenbaum says women and men (with some notable exceptions) converse in entirely different ways, and they converse differently with members of the opposite sex than with members of their own.
  • Conversations have a myriad of complex but unspoken cultural norms, styles and rituals (taking turns, pausing, nodding, apologizing for interrupting or misunderstanding etc.) When two people with different norms, styles, or rituals try to converse, or when a third person ignorant of the styles or rituals shared by the other two tries to enter a conversation, the result is both comical and tragic. A form of violence, even.
  • Most people don't appear to listen to what they themselves are saying. Many conversations include someone saying "I didn't say that" when in fact they did. I suspect if people listened to a tape or video recording of their conversations they would be stunned. They might never say anything again!
  • Most of the real communication in a conversation is not in the words. It's in the nuances of body and eye language. It's in the tone of voice. It's in the pauses. It's in the physical proximity or distance of the conversants.
  • Many effective conversations appear to be really interviews. That entails specific roles for the two conversants, with the interviewer's role being the more difficult and more important. If one person is mostly asking questions and the other person is doing most of the talking, it's an interview, not a conversation.
  • Conversations with more than two people are generally either parallel sequences of two-person  conversations, or moderated conversations, where one person is clearly directing the conversational 'traffic'.
  • Conversations would, I think, be much more effective if we had a ritual of having each conversant state upfront what their personal objective for the conversation is. I appreciate that in some cases this must be done tactfully: "I've wanted to meet you since Mr. A told me that you... ", or "I'm looking for some help with..." In the absence of such a protocol, a lot of initial conversations exhaust an enormous amount of participants' energy trying to figure this out tacitly.
  • From watching online chat (the only written medium that in my opinion is fast and immediate enough to really qualify as 'conversation') and listening to young people especially talk, what people seem to want most from conversation with friends is reassurance. Everyone is always fishing for compliments and confirmation, and, unless and until they clearly know and trust the offerer very well, dubious of the offerer's motivation when they get them. Few people, it seems, are really looking for advice, debate, or 'constructive criticism' in a conversation. But many seem enthusiastic to offer these things anyway!
  • You can tell almost immediately whether participants in a conversation trust each other or not. If you want to observe conversations where there is trust, go out for dinner a lot, and avoid offices and bars.
conversation

I'm coming to believe that good conversation, like good collaboration, is a skill, and, just as a lot of practice dancing badly does not make you a better dancer, just talking a lot does not necessarily make you a better conversationalist (in fact I suspect it may make you worse at it, by entrenching bad habits). If it's a skill it should be possible to learn it and teach it. And, while the seven 'purposes' of conversations bulleted in red above might require somewhat different skills, I suspect that there is a basic conversational 'skill set' that is common to all purposes.

The following list of 'rules' or 'principles' or 'elements' of good conversation constitute my first attempt at identifying what we would need to learn, and teach, to be better conversationalists. Unfortunately, it seems likely that the quality of the conversation will inevitably be at the level of the poorest conversationalist, just as the performance of a dancing couple will reflect the least-accomplished partner. This list is the result of thinking out loud, and I'm sure it is far from complete. Please join the conversation!
  1. We need to learn to do three things simultaneously: (a) listen intently and carefully to what others are saying, (b) think the arguments and concepts through in our own mind (and draw our own conclusions), and (c) articulate what we are going to say before we speak. This is extremely difficult, especially in a large group. If all participants do not do this, the result is a vicious cycle of poor conversation: not listening (and disengaging), not thinking, and not articulating properly, leading to more 'not listening'.
  2. We need to limit how many words we say before we allow, and encourage, others to speak, to keep the conversation 'in sync'.
  3. We need to allow pauses in the conversation, for people to catch up, and think coherently about what direction the conversation might most effectively go next.
  4. We need perhaps (I'm not sure) to allow and encourage people to pull themselves periodically out of the conversation and facilitate it as if they were non-participants: summarizing, time-checking, asking questions, drawing people out, even suggesting how the conversation might be made more productive. Is that presumptuous and manipulative?
  5. We need, as I suggest above, a 'ritual' (protocol) by which each participant and new entrant in a conversation begins with a brief upfront tactful statement of their personal objective for the conversation.
  6. We need another 'ritual' that would allow participants whose objective in the conversation is not being met to leave without excuse or apology and without other participants (even if there is only one!) taking offense. How else will selfish conversationalists ever learn?
  7. Back to the dance analogy, we need to evolve (or rediscover) tacit ways to cede and request the floor without interrupting the conversation or its flow, and tacit ways to invite or welcome others to join a conversation without side-tracking it with formal introductions. Could we evolve, as birds seem to have done, some graceful (good conversation, it seems to me, has a lot to do with grace) wordless gestures that would accomplish this, and allow us to signal that we would like to speak, who (if we have the floor) we are inviting to speak next, when we are finished speaking, that we understand, that we don't understand, that the speaker should let someone else talk, etc.
  8. We need to learn to read and understand body language, and to express body language unambiguously. It's an essential part of the conversation, and suppressing it or distorting it muffles the conversation.
  9. There is a new technology just announced that captures every conversation you participate in, records it, compresses it, and transcribes it. I'm ambivalent about this. Recording of conversations makes me shudder, yet it might allow us to retrieve information (contact information, context information) later that could be enormously valuable. We need to decide how to extract the benefits from such technology without incurring its risks, and without its trust-threatening and conversation-dampening attributes.
  10. We need to learn to be much better story-tellers, and more improvisational.
  11. We need to learn effective listening techniques, and critical thinking skills.
  12. Prevailing wisdom is that we need to be more respectful, more polite in our conversations. While I don't doubt this would be helpful, I'm not sure it can be taught or mandated. What are the 'model behaviours' that set an example for respect and politeness in conversations? What can we do to tactfully nudge those (especially when it's our boss!) who fail to demonstrate respect and politeness even when others are behaving in an exemplary way?
OK, I've said (more than) enough. Thank you for listening. Your turn to speak.

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So here I am at SXSW - and they won't let yah ask questions til the end. But there should be some really interesting conversations today.

Topics include:

- why do the A-list bloggers have some many disciples? As soon as they sit down out in the hallway, they're swarmed by legions of disciples.

- I wonder what the difference between 'emergent semantics' and emergent democracy'? Or better put "what's the difference between the semantic web and the SEMANTIC WEB?"

- the Macromedia people are here - and their stock is up. Apparently Wall. St. thinks their Flash Mobile strategy means something. But wait till people discover my former comapny - they'll go running in the opposite direction. The folks here seem nice enough - but if you got the kind of bosses they have - well I wouldn't wish it upon strangers. They (the bosses) will find some way of fucking this up - just like they have so many times before. The oly good news is rumors of a buyout. THEN maybe they can get some decent management in there.

- blogging showdown vs DIY or someone else will vs Bram Cohen interview - hmmmmmm. So many decisions to make.

- I ran into Harry Knowles. His "Aint-it-cool-news" is based here in Austin. I also got to meet his webmaster. They're one of my heros.

- Lots of other coolio panels like Open Source Marketing, We the Media, the New New economy and Red Sox Blog.

- and a Malcolm Gladwell keynote,

We doing a panel on open source infrastructure.


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And that’s what library organizations don’t get – conversation. That’s why ALA, LITA, ILA, and other major institutions don’t blog, certainly not with open comments. Even this seems beyond their reach right now. But that’s what we need to open up – a conversation with the outside world, as well as amongst ourselves.

Bonus FRL quote (emphasis is mine): “Donning my lii.org hat, we had a remarkable education when we added RSS feeds. Now people find us through the blog-finding agents. Librarians, including me, suck at marketing, but by adding RSS feeds, we stumbled onto a way for the audience to find us, instead of the glacially slow process of dissemination through our existing readership.”


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Having just taken a cross-country flight a few days ago, I definitely noticed the growing trend of "wheels down, cell phones up" described in this article decrying the fact that private conversations are now quite public. It seemed like almost everyone on the plane pulled out a phone as soon as we landed. Admittedly, I was no exception, but I only checked voicemail and email messages while waiting for the plane to clear out. I didn't make a phone call until I was safely in the terminal and could find a quiet corner to hide in, while checking to make sure my ride was on its way. So many people seem to forget when they're on the phone that others around them really don't care about the private aspects of the conversation they're having. The article notes that it's sort of the reverse problem of protecting your own privacy. Instead, you get the private lives of others thrust upon you by everyone around you chatting away on their mobile phones. It's really not that difficult to find a somewhat more private place to go if you really need to discuss something privately.

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Although the crowds seem smaller, or maybe there are just so many film people around, SXSW is fun this year. My panel went ok today, and I'm looking forward to relaxing the rest of my time here.

One thing has really been driven home by the availability and ubiquity of hacking tools: the downside of wireless is (un)security. I've been saying this since last year's E-Tech conference, but as long as Apple is pimping their airports and the wonders of wireless they really should have an "iSecure" app that makes ssh tunneling painless and easy. A few months ago I spent an entire saturday afternoon writing scripts to auto-login to my email server through a tunnel, and that was just email. Secure web browsing is something else entirely, and the services of things like anonymizer look attractive as a total package (but they're still a pain in the ass to setup).

Ideally, it should be entirely transparent, painless, and easy to setup and use a secure tunnel. Apple could even tie a service into their iTools accounts. I'd be happy to pay $50 a year for encrypted email and web traffic (with an easy interface to establish the connection).


CC at SXSW


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Keep an eye out for Creative Commons at the South By Southwest Music and Media Conference this March in Austin, Texas. We'll be hosting two panels, announcing two projects that encourage collaboration and distribution of music and film. Details coming soon.

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CC@SXSW 03/14/2005 06:06 PM

We'll have a booth at the interactive conference, do two panels (Notes From the Underground: The Rise of Remix Culture and The Semantic Web: Promising Future or Utter Failure), an intervie w and a party (see below). Also check out Colin Mutchler's Free Culture Performance.

See you in Austin, Texas next week. By the way, we're all friendly.


SXSW here I come


SXSW here I come 03/14/2005 05:09 PM

6:30 AM flight gets me into Austin by 2PM tomorrow.

Get to see Matt Mullenweg and Jon Lebkowsky and all sorts of peeps.

Some of us are going for the Trifecta: SXSW, Etech and then PC Forum.


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(Hear the MP3 version) Housekeeping Google Groups €“ Maybe Not. As those of you on the email list can see, I didn€™t try the Google Groups experiment after all. Only two people asked me not to use their email addresses there, but I just ran out of time to get ready for ...

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Scientists challenged to teach computers
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SXSW /interactive


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South by Southwest Interactive Festival .. SxSW interactive festivals .. SxSW awards ceremony .. 2003 SXSW Festival .. registered .. south

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SXSW: The Robot Ate Me


SXSW: The Robot Ate Me 03/22/2005 04:44 PM
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SXSW freebies


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Missing SXSW


Missing SXSW 03/14/2005 06:24 PM

I had a great time at last year's SXSW, so I was really looking forward to returning this year. Unfortunately, I've had to change my plans and won't be able to make it. My apologies to those who I planned to meet with - maybe next year!


SXSW Bound


SXSW Bound 03/17/2005 04:06 AM
Our little crew is off to Austin TX for another joyous installment of SXSW Interactive.
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