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Gothamist Interviews: Clay Shirky, Internet Technologist







Gothamist Interviews: Clay Shirky,
Internet Technologist

Gothamist Interviews: Clay Shirky,
Internet Technologist
04/10/2004 08:47 AM

Gothamist has an excellent interview with Clay Shirky today .. intervju

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Here's Jonas' reaction to Clay's latest piece - on 'Situated Software'.  I had a completely different reaction.  I see situated software - as teh same as what I call "activity based computing."

Inspired by Don Norman's work - I really think activity based computing happens when digital lifestyle aggregation is a norm.

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Communicate.

Clay Shirky just published an essay on “Situated Software”, software tailored towards a specific situation.

Part of the future I believe I’m seeing is a change in the software ecosystem which, for the moment, I’m calling situated software. This is software designed in and for a particular social situation or context. This way of making software is in contrast with what I’ll call the Web School (the paradigm I learned to program in), where scalability, generality, and completeness were the key virtues.

Shirky touches on the very foundation the whole “Social Software” craze is all about – communication. He acknowledges, correctly, the basic foundation of it – communication.

Communication is cool. Everyone communicates, and sends verbal and non-verbal factoids at almost every waking second. The amazing part about mankind, and one of those things that not only set us apart from “lower” mammals and other life-forms, is our need and will to communicate, no matter what. Deprived of our primary means of communication, that is the verbal way, we invent and use secondary and tertiary means. Hearing and speech impaired use sign language, we use body language and simple pictorials to communicate, and if that all is taken away from us, we still seek and find a way.

Which by the way, also explains the withdrawal symptoms and “addictions” to email, Everquest, or IRC. We communicate. If taken away, we lose a form of communication, which is – as everyone who lost hearing or speech or vision will attest to – is something rather uncomfortable and painful. Losing this channel of communication equates to a loss of senses, sensory deprivation, and comes with all the psychological side-effects, such an event has to the affected.

In a way, communication is like lightning. It will always find the easiest way, no matter how. Deprived of simple ways to strike, the next easier path is taken, and so on. Successful “social software” is a lightning rod for such communication. It provides an easier way to convey factoids to other individuals. Take the whole “social network” misnomer, for an example. Friendships were expressed on online communities long before Friendster or Orkut. The WELL, heading into its 21st year of existence, is full of verbal and non-verbal displays or friendship and acquaintanceship. Or animosities, outright hate, curiosity. Name it, and it was there.

The problem is, telling it that way won’t get one quoted in eWeek. It’s one thing to call oneself an “expert” in Social Networking or a Visionary, or a Pioneer. Passersby stand in awe, the industry rejoices and jumps at the possibility of raking in VC money, and because it sounds academic, few questions are asked. Simply sounds better than “someone who knows, that people talk”, doesn’t it?

Take the “backchannel” discussion for a second. There are proponents and opponents of … communication. The basic understanding is simple – someone, somewhere, uses computerized means, such as IRC or AIM, or a WiKi, to comment in realtime on something. That something are mostly talks and presentations in conferences. Before IRC or IM was discovered, whispers were used, body language, such as yawning, applauding, rolling of eyes, or demonstrative snoring. With wireless networks starting to fill conference venues, the lightning strike of communication sought and found an easier, less prone to misscommunication, way in IRC and IM.

Skinned of the multiple layers of new words and stripped of the means, backchannel opponents and proponents are back to the basics – communication is good or bad, depending what’s it all about and who it is all about. Proponents point out the less disruptive and more constructive nature of IRC communications, opponents focus mostly on its exclusionary nature, both neglecting to acknowledge that before IRC and IM, other means were employed, which were equally exclusionary and similarly constructive – those things commonly called the “hallway track”.

Yes, speaking in new words, or calling ordinary things by academic sounding names has its advantages. Most importantly, it introduces a new lawyer of discussion. “I don’t really like it, when people talk about me behind my back” simply sounds less mature than “I think backchannels are useless”.

Communication is old. Providing better means to communicate and convey accurate factoids makes for a potential way to channel conversations into a system. It’s that simple, and I have no idea why we need to make it more complicated than that.

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Of course librarians, teachers, and academics don't like the Wikipedia. It works without privelege, which is inimical to the way those professions operate.

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It's not that it doesn't matter what academics think of the Wikipedia -- it would obviously be better to have as many smart people using it as possible. The problem is that the only thing that would make the academics happy would be to shoehorn it into the kind of filter, then publish model that is broken, and would make the Wikipedia broken as well.

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And it isn't just military affairs, its politics and business and everything else, from attempts to coordinate evidence of Apple's manufacturing errors (previously handled case-by-case, but now becoming a kind of grass-rooots class action protest, to Apple's horror) to the distributed amicus brief on the SCO case conducted by the Linux community to the recent right of Americans to get their medical records on request and within 30 days to the publication of spoilers for popular TV shows. (Read this last link now — its from the Times and goes away in 5 days, and although on the surface its about TV, its really a musing on life in a fully disclosed culture.)

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Now Britannica doesn't want this to be true (god, do they not want this to be true) and so they try to create litmus tests around authoritativeness -- "WARNING: Do not read anything that does not come from an institutional source!" But this is as silly as audiophiles dismissing the MP3 format because it wasn't an improvement in audio quality, missing entirely that the package of "moderate quality+improved cost and distribution" was what made the format great. Considering MP3 as nothing more than a lossy compression scheme missed the bundle of services that it enabled.

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