Dave Winer: Merging RSS with Atom?
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Dave Winer
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06/14/2004 03:50 AMDave Winer
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"Dave Winer"
"Dave Winer"
06/18/2004 04:59 AM"Dave Winer is against it"
"Dave Winer is against it"
06/05/2004 09:30 PMQuestions for Dave Winer...
Questions for Dave Winer...
04/09/2004 03:54 PMDear Mr
Winer,
- Will the API for radiocomments be public and clonable?
- If so, will the API for radiocomments be published before the
initial deployment of the radiocomments system?
- Will it be possible for Radio users to plug into a non-Userland
scripting system?
- Will the process for designing the radiocomments API be open or
will it be designed exclusively by Userland?
- Will Radio, Manila, or Frontier ever move to a non-proprietary
scripting language?
- Have you or will you file patents for the
weblogs.com technology?
I should add that I don't really have much of an opinion about the
whole Typekey thing at the
moment. Certainly we need something to deal with comment-spam,
certainly a centralised service will help with that and make things
easier, yes I'd rather have an open standard or set of protocols that
allow completely decentralised system if I could think of any way it
could be done (but offhand I can't).
Addendum: I have to confess that I'm not terribly interested
in this stuff - I was making a fairly light-hearted and facetious
point that really wasn't particularly well-expressed. I was clumsy in
a variety of places, and for that I apologise. All I was saying, I
guess, is that Dave's questions made it sound like Six Apart had a reputation for
proprietorial formats and patenting stuff and not opening up APIs -
and that I don't really see any evidence of that. And - realistically
- Dave is still associated with Userland and Userland is still a
competitor of SixApart - so I can't really see why they should feel
any particular obligation to answer those questions. (Particularly
given that Userland attempted to trademark RSS a few years ago - a move that could be seen
to be directly against the kind of openness that Dave's interrogating
Six Apart about.)
Anyway, I certainly don't feel qualified enough to comment in any
depth about the business practices of either Six Apart or Userland in
this context and these are not positions that I'd be prepared to
battle to my last breath to protect. So I'm going to back down
gracefully, only saying that I hope that it's clear why I had
the impression that I had, however inaccurate it may or may not have
been. I also apologise to anyone who was offended or feels
mischaracterised and I hope we can put this all behind us.
Dave Winer has some problems with the
changes
Dave Winer has some problems with the
changes
05/12/2004 01:30 AMScriptingNewsDave's latest rants .. grouse once ..
complains
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I'm proud of Dave Winer
I'm proud of Dave Winer
07/27/2004 07:48 PMI really don't care about the Democratic Convention (though I
did in 1968) and I'm not really into following what bloggers do
in general (unless it's about social networking or media as
well) - but did I tell you how proud I am of Dave Winer
and the other Convention Bloggers?
Go dudes and dudesses - go.
Dave Winer asks......
Dave Winer asks......
08/02/2004 01:29 PMDave Winer just posted a comment and asked.....
I don't get it -- why don't you use Radio?
What exactly was unreliable about it?
Maybe I can help figure out how to get it reliable.
Paolo was running his own RCS, right?
Anyway, I'm glad a Radio user finally had the confidence to tell
the other guys that they haven't even caught up with UserLand's
low-end product yet. Hold them to it. Let's get a real baseline
for competition here.
Marc's reply......
First of all Congrats on the Convention - totally
amazing to see how far blogging has come since you first floated the
idea to me - back in 1995.
Personal publishing sure has come a long way - but we're not done
yet. The idea of a client based personal server is something I can
credit you for being the first person to come up with that idea. The
issues surrounding that kind of product have been revealed because of
Radio - and we all you a debt of gratitude for that one - too!
So I actually felt that Radio represented a lot more than just a
'blogging tool'. I worked with Mikel Maron
on his MyRadio project and lauded Social DynamX's
FMRadioStation. We even planned to do a product called
Sweet Suite - which would also have complemented
Radio.
But dude - you folks fell behind. I guess that doesn't mean you
anymore - but being the largest shareholder does keep your teeth in
the game. You question certainly shows that you're still concerned
with the product's status and view - from the public POV.
So I can speak for many of us who left Radio in the past year - we
loved that product, it changed our lives - but as new features,
functionality and flexiblity came onto the market - Radio was
incresingly keeping us behind.
Take the comment you left me.
I got an email of it, asking me to approve it - via 6A's TypeKey
system. That rocks.
There are plenty of things that Radio still leads the market with -
and that was the core of my post. But there were also lots of reasons
to stop using Radio.
Stability was probably the biggest issue for me. After 5 or 6
total crashes, some of them my fauilt, others Radio instability - I
just gave up. Also the feeling that all development on Radio had
stopped - was a disappointment.
I always felt that you didn't charge enough for Radio, that if you
had kept EditThispage going as a service and morphed it like Pyra did
- the world would be a different place today.
And there was a whole "blogging support" play there - that never
was taken advantage of......
Yes - Paolo runs his own RCS - and he's your biggest supporter and
develoiper - BTW. And we're just getting started.
But for some reason - my mind flows to new kinds of
micro-content, namespaces and
decoupling schemas from the subscription
protocol.
Isn't there a way I can talk you into getting back involved in
moving these standards FORWARD?
Instead of worrying about the width of the threads on the pipe,
can't we focus on the structured shit that goes through the pipes?
As I said before - I REALLY think that we can setup open standards
for NEW kinds of micro-content. Here they are - and some of the
people who should be involve don a domain specific basis. But DUDE -
you know me and you and Sifry and Jon Udell should drive the overall
architecture of all this. We NEED you! Here are the new kind sof
micro-content I'm talking about:
- OpenEvents (Brian Dear, Peter
Caputa, Andy Biao)
- OpenMedia
(JD Lasica, Stewert Butterfield, Greg Elin, Brewster Kahle, Lucas
Gonze, Kevin Marks, Robert Kaye and many others.....)
- OpenReviews (Alf Eaton, Paul
Martino, Ross Rader)
- OpenPeople (all the FOAFnet.org folks, Tantek Celik, Sxip
(Dick Hardt), Joel De Gan)
- OpenRecipes (Meg Hourihan)
- OpenResume (Phil Wolff, Phil
Windley)
Now not all these folks have signed up yet - but DUUUUUUUUUUUDE -
we need you!
"Dave Winer of Scripting News "
"Dave Winer of Scripting News "
07/08/2004 02:13 AMDave Winer: "I make shitty
Dave Winer: "I make shitty
10/30/2003 09:22 PMDave Winer: "I make shitty software and I write shitty specs, but for
all that shittyness, they're amazingly popular and somewhat
useful."...
Dave Winer has linked to a bunch of new
feeds
Dave Winer has linked to a bunch of new
feeds
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A Small Victory - Dave Winer is Still a
Dick
A Small Victory - Dave Winer is Still a
Dick
06/16/2004 10:17 AMDave Winer Dumps 3000 Blogs He's Hosting With No Warning (I've Always
Thought Dave Winer Was An Obnoxious Moron. Obviously, I Was Right) ..
takes Dave to task .. Michele Catalano .. what can
happen
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Dave Winer leaving RSS advisory board!
Dave Winer leaving RSS advisory board!
06/26/2004 06:21 AMI am but a geek who's web surfing now revolves around RSS. I have
only been producing this site a couple of years using RSS technology
and it has profoundly changed me.
First I have influenced a person I have worked with for years to
invest a significant amount of time/money integrating RSS into a
mainstream application that has been on the market for a long time. My
vision will have a significant impact on his company. When your
influence and indirectly driven by Dave's perseverance to develop RSS
into a mainstream standard helps change a companies vision that is a
powerful thing. (more on that later but for know you will have to
ponder what we are up to).
Second I started this website because RSS agreation of data, made
me envision something that we have not yet fully implemented. It will
be accomplished with RSS,
Look at the number of cottage industries that have sprung up and
revolve around RSS. Not very many people can say my vision resulted in
the creation of multiple companies doing breakthrough work, Dave Winer
can! He is on a very short list of techies that can make such a
claim.
Dave Winer was instrumental in making RSS what is today. The Atom
folks would not be doing what they are doing if Dave had not done the
legwork and revived RSS from the death grip surrounding the demise of
Netscape and they should not forget who forged the path.
RSS has given me hope that innovation is still alive and well, it
is now being driven mainstream through the voices of 100's of
thousands of webloggers and companies are incorporating the technology
every day fearing they are going to be left behind. It's like a tidal
wave it starts as a ripple and ends with overwhelming power.
I am confident though, that with Dave's leaving the RSS advisory
board that he has left it in good hands and the vision will carry
on. Will there be changes sure but I also foresee universal
incorporation at all levels of the IT infrastructure and into personal
media.
Thanks Dave I only wish I had been there from the beginning. [Scriptin
g News]
Dave Winer nominated for WIRED Rave
Award
Dave Winer nominated for WIRED Rave
Award
02/17/2004 07:51 AMCongrats to Dave Winer for
his WIRED Rave
Award nomination in the Software Designer category (for RSS, of
course).
"Dave Winer takes a shot at the Clark
and Dean campaigns"
"Dave Winer takes a shot at the Clark
and Dean campaigns"
12/25/2003 08:59 PM<a
href="http://scriptingnews.userland.com/
2003/06/29#When:6:21:27AM">Dave
Winer</a>: "I make
<a
href="http://scriptingnews.userland.com/
2003/06/29#When:6:21:27AM">Dave
Winer</a>: "I make
10/30/2003 08:17 PM<a
href="http://scriptingnews.userland.com/2003/06/29#When:6:21:27AM">
Dave Winer</a>: "I make shitty software and I write shitty
specs, but for all that shittyness, they're amazingly popular and
somewhat useful."...
Wham bam. Dave Winer shuts down hosting
at webl0gs.com. No warning. 'And no
whining', he says
Wham bam. Dave Winer shuts down hosting
at webl0gs.com. No warning. 'And no
whining', he says
06/18/2004 03:18 AM13
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glassdog: "Dave Winer: A
Diagnosis"
glassdog: "Dave Winer: A
Diagnosis"
06/27/2004 05:58 PMLance Arthur diagnoses Dave Winer as a
sociopath
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Microsoft, SAP say they considered
merging
Microsoft, SAP say they considered
merging
06/07/2004 01:46 PMAs part of its bid for a foothold in the enterprise applications
market, Microsoft Corp. initiated merger discussions late last year
with ERP (enterprise resource planning) leader SAP AG. The talks ended
several months ago after Microsoft decided the deal and the post-union
integration would be too risky.
Merging search results
Merging search results
04/09/2004 04:13 PMTemplate snippet showing how to merge seearch results from several
Movable Type blogs into one ordered list and create friendly
suggestions when a search returns zero results.
Cars To Be Assembled Atom By Atom
Cars To Be Assembled Atom By Atom
06/20/2004 12:47 PMMicrosoft, SAP considered merging last
year
Microsoft, SAP considered merging last
year
06/07/2004 05:23 PMLate last year, Microsoft initiated merger discussions with SAP AG,
the two companies disclosed as a trial began on the Justice
Department's lawsuit to block Oracle's proposed acquisition of
PeopleSoft.
Can the new Symantec make merging look
easy?
Can the new Symantec make merging look
easy?
12/19/2004 03:20 PMAnalysis Your data hopes so
Sidebar: Banks Merging Business, IT
Offices
Sidebar: Banks Merging Business, IT
Offices
04/11/2005 11:37 PMComputerworld Apr 12 2005 4:24AM GMT
Merging internet and phone numbers: UK
consults
Merging internet and phone numbers: UK
consults
08/23/2004 12:35 PMOut-Law.com Aug 23 2004 5:03PM GMT
Merging Web Site Traffic Analysis
With... Sim City?
Merging Web Site Traffic Analysis
With... Sim City?
06/09/2004 10:35 AMDealing with large amounts of data is often difficult. For years,
people have tried to come up with better graphical representations of
data - which is why we see so many pie and bar charts all over the
place. One developer has decided to go one step further in making
website traffic analysis more visual. For anyone running a website,
visitor traffic analysis often becomes something of an obsession.
They want to see their stats, about who's visiting, how many people
are visiting, where they're going and what they're doing on the site.
Most web hosting companies offer up some very simple traffic analysis
programs, but they usually don't let you dig too much into the
information. There are a number of large "enterprise" level traffic
analysis packages that are popular, as well as some cheaper ones that
are pretty good themselves. However, they all produce the same sorts
of charts and lists of data. Robert Savage thought that the data
could be presented in a more intuitive way and
creat
ed an interface for web traffic analysis that looks more like Sim City
than a traditional analysis package. The idea is that pages
getting a lot of traffic look like large buildings, and people moving
from one page to another hail taxi cabs, so you can see where they're
going. Buses with their rooftops labeled show where people are
arriving from (Google, Yahoo, etc.). The larger your website, the
more it looks like a city than a small town. While it sounds (quite)
gimmicky, people using it say it becomes addictive very quickly. Of
course, it looks like the
VisitorVille website can't
take the traffic beating it must be getting - at posting time, all of
its own images are broken.
Report: Google, Microsoft Discuss
Merging
Report: Google, Microsoft Discuss
Merging
10/31/2003 07:25 PMNEW YORK -- There's a published report that Microsoft has been talking
with Google about a possible combination. The New York Times ...
Merging Spaces: From Digital Information
Architecture to Narrative Imagination
Merging Spaces: From Digital Information
Architecture to Narrative Imagination
01/07/2003 02:46 PMVocada Awarded Patent for Merging Voice
Messaging, Data; First Used in Fail-safe
Medical Communications System
Vocada Awarded Patent for Merging Voice
Messaging, Data; First Used in Fail-safe
Medical Communications System
03/14/2005 04:39 PMVocada, Inc. has been awarded a U.S. patent on a broad-based
technology and methodology that for the first time bridges voice
messaging and data systems in a way that allows for categorization,
archiving, retrieval, and interaction of voice messages with today’s
leading-edge Internet-based data platforms. [PRWEB Mar 14, 2005]
WiFi, Cellular, and Wired Networks
Merging To Form Pervasive Networks in
Homes and Offices, Says INSIGHT Research
WiFi, Cellular, and Wired Networks
Merging To Form Pervasive Networks in
Homes and Offices, Says INSIGHT Research
12/22/2004 01:46 AMPervasive networks—a ubiquitous “fabric” of computing, information,
entertainment, and telemetry capability tied together by high-speed
wired and wireless networks—are emerging from a flurry of new
communication technologies now being used in home and office networks.
Though communications carriers do not offer this type of continuous
communication as a service today, the piece parts are already in
place. [PRWEB Dec 20, 2004]
DAVE 5.0.1
DAVE 5.0.1
09/15/2004 11:54 PMEnables Macintosh users to participate in Microsoft networks with both
file and print sharing services.
"***Dave"
"***Dave"
12/10/2003 03:08 PMThanks Dr Dave
Thanks Dr Dave
12/24/2004 12:11 PM
After the weblogs.com hosting debacle<
/a> surfaced yet again by people trying to reignite the flames, I
decided to try to discuss it again with David Weinberger, whose
comments in the middle of the flamefest are widely cited as evidence
of how I didn't do all I should have done to notify people with blogs
on weblogs.com. I know David to be a thoughtful, careful and
considerate person. And to this day well-intentioned people question
my integrity over these events. That's not cool for a person such as
myself who values his integrity.
We reviewed the options that people suggested at the time, 1.
Send an email, or 2. Post something on Scripting News. Neither would
have worked, the mail addresses were four years old and probably
didn't work, most of the sites never got past the Hello World stage
(so the authors might not remember creating the site, and certainly
don't care), and most people with free sites weren't and probably
still aren't Scripting News readers, any more than most Blogger users
were Evhead readers.
Posting something on Scripting News wouldn't have notified the
users, but it sure would have notified the flamers. I think they were
saying that they were complaining that they weren't told in advance
that it was time to rip me a new one. ";->"
Anyway, he posted a correctio
n, so next time this comes up, as it is sure to, the flamers won't
be able to use him to support their attacks. Thanks!
Get Well Dave!
Get Well Dave!
06/17/2002 07:56 AMDave Winer is half geek, half journalist and a man with a big heart.
He hosts this web site for free, and is in hospital till next weekend.
So Dave, keep healin' and keep on diggin'.
Dave
Dave
05/25/2004 08:36 AMMeanwhile, our boy Dave is freshly wiped down and ready for action.
The cleaning of Michelangelo's David has finished, much to the relief
of the experts who thought that the use of water in the process would
hurt the thing....
"Dave"
"Dave"
11/18/2003 10:22 AMThanks, Dave
Thanks, Dave
06/17/2005 07:17 PM
Now that I've come up for air after my latest codin
g frenzy, I see that Brian
Bailey has done something I should've done a long time ago: than
k Dave Winer for his huge contributions to our syndicated
world.
FeedDemon relies on RSS, OPML, weblogs, podcasting and SOAP - all
of which were invented, co-invented or evangelized by Dave Winer. I'm
having a blast developing FeedDemon, so thank you, Dave, for making my
world a better a one.
"Dave responds"
"Dave responds"
06/17/2004 11:33 AMDave & Busted
Dave & Busted
04/15/2005 03:18 PMInvestors stopped chewing on Dave & Buster's stock after the release
of stale earnings.
"Dave Kopel"
"Dave Kopel"
08/15/2004 03:59 AMGrok Description matches for Dave Winer: Merging RSS with Atom?
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