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TypeKey and Comment Registration FAQ

TypeKey and Comment Registration FAQ 04/09/2004 03:56 PM

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Blog for America: Comment on Governor
Dean to Comment Shortly


Blog for America: Comment on Governor
Dean to Comment Shortly
12/16/2003 05:30 AM
America's Palestinians .. Dean for President .. campaign blog .. "Carrie B."

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TypeKey FAQ


TypeKey FAQ 04/27/2004 09:32 PM

TypeKey: Here's a pretty extensive FAQ on TypeKey — the Microsoft Passport-ish blog comment authentication service from Six Apart. It's a central authentication service which allows you to log in to TypeKey and use that identitiy to post to multiple blogs. They provide a good example:

Alice visits Bob's weblog for the first time and wishes to leave a comment. Bob only allows comments by registered users on his weblog. So, to leave a comment, Alice signs up for TypeKey and posts a comment to Bob's weblog using that identity.

Because Bob requires his approval of comments by all new registered visitors, the comment doesn't appear on Bob's site until he approves Alice as an allowed commenter. Once he's done that, Alice's comments automatically appear, and any future comments that she makes appear right away as well.

Now Alice goes to Carol's weblog. Carol also allows comments by registered users only. Alice signs in using her existing TypeKey account and posts a comment to Carol's weblog, which goes into Carol's moderation queue, because this is Alice's first comment on her weblog.

But Alice hates Carol, so she left a nasty comment! Carol receives the comment via email, and doesn't like the tone of it. So she logs into Movable Type and bans Alice from posting comments to her weblog.

Alice is now banned from posting comments to Carol's weblog, but she is still allowed to post comments to Bob's weblog.

It's worth reading if you're going to move to Movable Type 3.0. There's a lot of information in there,

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TypeKey


TypeKey 05/16/2004 02:18 AM
Comment-free Six Apart promotes centralized MT comment registration .. centralized identity management system called TypeKey .. centralized password repository .. the solution is coming soon .. TypeKey .. Type Key

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More on the Typekey upgrade...


More on the Typekey upgrade... 05/16/2004 12:18 PM

So my installation of Movable Type has never been the simplest of things. I've had to use cgiwrap to avoid some of the more arcane problems with pair's process throttling and I've got MT installed in a completely different directory and domain to my site. For someone with as little overt server knowledge as myself, this means that every time something's supposed to be a simple installation or adaptation process, everything goes completely wrong. This is all by way of me saying that I've still got lots of problems around the place with integrating the Typekey registration system, including but not limited to it randomly not working, having lots of really nasty preview screens that remain totally untemplated and generally feeling more than a little rough around the edges. I'll endeavour to get it all sorted out this evening so that the Monday morning crowd don't start snarking out at me... Plus: Lots of actually interesting posts on real subjects to come soon!

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Somebody took a look at the TypeKey protocol; it looks similar to Passport (since I guess there are only so many ways to do this stuff).

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TypeKey still broken 04/16/2005 09:44 PM

I can't tell you how bummed out I am that TypeKey doesn't seem to want to work for me. I've had several folks look at it - oh well.

So I'd like to reach out to Don Park - as the guy I just signed a deal with in Korea is named Park and then there's Troutgirl (who WON'T be my friend on Y 360) and so many other Parks, Kims and Lees. And I won't even get into the Moons.

I heard that the reason why there are so many of these common names - is that as Korea was leaving the fuedal era - these names were the cheapest ones to buy - for theserfs - as they sought out last names.

For many centuries lower caste people were not allowed last names.

So YES - I'll be returning to Korea - YES - I want to meet everyone's friends and hang - and I especially want to meet the OhMyNews folks.

I really dug Korea. The cyber culture is highly evolved in the masses - the whole place is a perculator petrie dish.


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Google to end IPO registration 08/12/2004 05:44 AM
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Domain Name Registration


Domain Name Registration 08/22/2004 11:38 AM
control all my domains .. registrar of choice .. Network Solutions .. Email Services .. Web Hosting .. register it .. registrar .. Dotster, .. Dotster

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BugMeNot Registration


BugMeNot Registration 08/11/2004 11:51 AM
BugMeNot.com now requires registration. For employees, partners, affiliates or legal representatives of any site which enforces compulsory user registration to view content, that is. It should only take a moment.

Google says IPO registration nearly done


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Registration - BugMeNot.com


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If you're with a site that "enforces compulsory user registration", you're required to register with BugMeNot .. registration form like this

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"a hilarious registration page"


"a hilarious registration page" 07/25/2004 02:33 PM

There Are Alternatives To User
Registration


There Are Alternatives To User
Registration
06/24/2004 06:03 PM
Just last week we wrote about how many more newspaper sites were making the mistake of forcing users to register, even though it wasn't helping them at all. First, it was drastically cutting their traffic by keeping out all the casual visitors (and links from blogs or other news aggregation sources) who don't want to register. That is, it's reducing their ad inventory. Second, even that additional info that they claim would help them sell more targeted ads is wrong, since many users just use bogus information. So, they get fewer users and useless info. This doesn't seem like a recipe for success. Earlier this week, I sent a note to that effect to the Sydney Morning Herald, which is trying to implement a registration scheme. They wrote me back, ignoring my points, and simply cutting and pasting the reason for adding registration. Steve Outing has written up a piece for Editor & Publisher explaining why online newspapers don't need to go to forced registration. First, he points out that one of the main problems with forced registration is that the users don't feel they're really getting anything of value -- and it clearly turns off casual readers. Instead, he suggests setting up offerings that add real value to get users to register, while still letting the casual reader in free. In that way, you also get rid of much of the dirty data, by giving users a reason to be honest. It seems like a smart solution: you don't lose any visitors, and for a core subset of loyal readers you get good data. It's so intelligent, in fact, that most online newspapers will ignore the idea.

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AP - Google Inc. will close the registration process for its IPO auction Thursday, setting the stage for the online search engine leader's hotly anticipated stock market debut.

News site registration


News site registration 07/16/2004 11:46 AM

The single hottest topic in the online news industry at the moment is that of required registration. A number of large news sites (the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune) have moved to this model, and many local newspapers are following suit.

If you haven't seen BugMeNot, go and check it out now. It's a simple service for sharing free news site accounts, and it's started to upset some people in the news industry. A post to the online-news mailing list inquiring about possible legal action against the site prompted me to reply with the following:

The flaw here is not with BugMeNot - it's with the entire concept of user registration in its present form. The reason BugMeNot works is that there is absolutely no value to an end user in keeping their account to themselves. If you want to stop people from sharing their accounts, give them an incentive not to. This is not a difficult thing to do - I have a large number of accounts on different community sites which are used to contribute to discussions and manage my personal information. I would never dream of sharing those accounts with others - it would allow other people to impersonate me and damage my reputation. An account that only allows me to read content (a one-way interaction) is of no value to me, so why not share the account with others?

BugMeNot is not a new idea by any stretch of the imagination: shared accounts have existed for as long as sites have required registration for spurious reasons. For as long as I can remember, members of the MetaFilter community have worked together to set up username/password combinations of metafilter/metafilter on sites that require registration to bypass the irritation of setting up yet another account.

If you want to fight BugMeNot, the solution is to monitor the site and ban any accounts for your own site that appear there - but that's just fighting the symptoms. The core problem is the whole idea of registration itself: it's anti-web, anti-user, it doesn't scale and it's a sign of extreme short term thinking. Imagine if every site on the web required registration - no one would use it!

As a web user, I see registration as nothing more than an unnecessary irritation. Before BugMeNot I would simply hit "Back" whenever I saw a registration screen; now I use it to carry on through to the articles and accompanying ads. As a heavy web user who buys online almost as frequently as offline I'm exactly the kind of demographic sites should be trying to attract.

Reading the above a few days later, I think it still accurately represents my thoughts on the free registration model.

Adrian has also posted his thoughts on registration, which run along very similar lines to mine.

For a great example of the mentality behind registration, check out this sp iel from the Toronto Star (via Craig Saila):

Our main goal of asking you to become a registered member of thestar.com is to improve and enhance your online experience with us. Registration is an important piece of our long-term strategy in building a valuable audience for our advertisers and helping us in setting the priorities for future site development and enhancements.

[...]

By asking you to share some information with us we are able to increase the value of our site to advertisers, who help support the cost of producing one of Canada's top news sites, by offering them the ability to target their advertising messages based on the information you provide.

And that's the problem right there: as a user, the value proposition of having more targetted ads thrown at me just isn't a good enough incentive for me to jump through their hoops.


Google IPO Open for Registration


Google IPO Open for Registration 08/02/2004 10:21 AM

Registration 'nightmare' at UMass


Registration 'nightmare' at UMass 09/14/2004 03:55 AM
Boston Globe Sep 14 2004 8:10AM GMT

Why Trust Registration Data?


Why Trust Registration Data? 08/11/2004 04:52 AM
Online news sites say we should just believe their claims that information in their user-registration databases is accurate. But given the circulation scandals among their print brethren, why should we? Commentary by Adam L. Penenberg.

Google Gets Domain Name Registration OK


Google Gets Domain Name Registration OK 02/05/2005 09:10 PM
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Why registration-sites suck


Why registration-sites suck 07/20/2004 06:15 AM
Wired News has a good piece on the backlash against the growing trend of news-sites requiring logins to read their articles, covering automated tools like the Mozilla bugmenot plugin that automatically spoofs your logins to 14,000+ sites.

The point that everyone seems to miss is that no one can possibly keep track of a thousand passwords for a thousand websites, which means that these sites undoubtably contain recycled passwords (admonishments from security experts to never recycle a password are the infosec equivalent of telling people to "eat less and exercise more" -- simplistic doctrine that is vanishingly unlikely to be adhered to in the field).

The more you recycle a password, the higher the likelihood that you will use it in a sensitive context -- a bank site, a message board, an IM client, an auction site -- where someone might impersonate you or even commit identity theft crimes against you.

What's even worse is that while these news-sites are willing to spend the computational cycles necessary to receive your password, none that I've seen use SSL for their login, which means that the NYT and others demand that you send your password in the clear when you sit down at a WiFi cafe and want to read the password. This is a potential disaster if that NYT password is also a sensitive one somewhere else: it's a case of really callous disregard for user privacy and security. Link

Los Angeles Times - Registration


Los Angeles Times - Registration 12/02/2003 12:28 AM

Cheapest Domain Name Registration


Cheapest Domain Name Registration 05/22/2004 11:13 PM
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Domain Name registration again in vouge


Domain Name registration again in vouge 06/11/2004 08:21 AM

Domain-name registration surges


Domain-name registration surges 06/09/2004 12:41 PM
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