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Revamps to Commenting and RSS

Revamps to Commenting and RSS 02/15/2003 08:39 PM

In my previous post, I asked that users who requested my old RSS file in news aggregators update to the new link. Phil left a comment which raised a good point. From what he said, I have changed my error handling to return an HTTP message of 301 Moved Permanently and redirect to the new RSS feed when the old feed is requested. I've tested the results with Syndirella and it worked. I could tell it worked because my access logs showed my request as one for the new URL, and not the old URL, even though I requested the old one. In the past I would have received an error code as well. However, let me know if you have any problems.

Also new, I completed the non-dynamic commenting system. Most of you will never see it because your browser supports the dynamic version, but this will affect a few people.




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RSS & Commenting 02/17/2003 12:16 PM

I have this idea for adding commenting information to RSS feeds. This would allow the writers of news aggregators to have forms built into their software where readers could send comments to the site their reading without having to visit the site. Below is an example of what I'm thinking.

<comments:method>XML-RPC</comments:method>
<comments:uri>http://yoursite.com/comments.php</comments:u
ri>
<comments:fields>
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 <comments:field value="url"/>
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maxlength="1024"/>
</comments:fields>

Messages could be sent any number of ways, including (in order of my preference): XML-RPC, HTTP-POST, POST, and HTTP-GET. There would have to be a standardized naming of fields. For instance, in the case of the above example, the user is asked to enter their email address. The standard would have to specify a singular name that would be understood to be email address, like email, so that code writers don't have to be sniffing for email addresses if the aggregator program decides to send it as contact instead.

The implementation could be as simple or as complex as the site owner wanted. Error checking in the aggregators could alleviate some headaches on the blog's end. If a site wanted to require registration, they could require a username and password field in the <fields> section above.

Of course, now that people could comment through their aggregators you would need to have a way getting your comments back to the aggregator. This could be done in three ways as I see it.

  1. The blog could run a seperate RSS feed containing their comments. Some blogs already do this (Phil Ringnalda, for instance).
  2. The RSS Commenting specification could include a method of showing comments inline in current RSS feeds (this would be best, I think).
  3. More tech-savvy sites could allow aggregators to set up connections to them (XML-RPC client/server perhaps) and request all the comments for a particular post. I think this method would be more work than neccessary.

Please leave me a comment below or drop me an email and let me know if you think this idea is good, or even if you think it's stupid. Also, if you know of the best way to propose such a thing to the RSS Working Group, let me know. I'm going to write up some more ideas and specifications, maybe even a DTD or Schema.


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I have been getting some negative e-mail on us locking down our commentng system, we now require you to register with Typekey. I want to explain why we had to lock down the comments. I was spending 20 to 30 minutes a day removing spams that contained adult or inappropriate content. The spammers where using commenting programs that would put several 100 comments per spamming run places throughout our 2500 articles. We had a tool to help us clean those comments up but it took entirely to much time.

The new system is enable through a service called Typekey. Once you are registered with Typekey you will be able to post comments on any Movabletype 3.0 or greater webllog. They have a very clear policy that they will not disclose any more information than what you allow in your profile. If you look at my profile you will see that I have opted to allow you to see a variety of information about me. All of that information is OPTIONAL.

No they do require you to divulge a minimal amount of information when you signup but the main point is to verify posters identities. We do not require your e-mail address be posted on the website. This is to keep spam out of your inbox when spammers come harvesting e-mail address's.

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