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Orkut members launch Orkut Paranoia
community about Orkut TOS on Orkut
Orkut members launch Orkut Paranoia
community about Orkut TOS on Orkut
02/10/2004 10:42 PMGeez. My head is spinning. Anyway, BoingBoing reader Adam fields
points us to a new "Orkut community" (one of many online affinity
groups within the social networking service), called "
Orkut
Paranoia" (link requires free membership). Adam says, "This
formed out of some interesting discussion we've had about what's going
on... summarized in this blog post:"
1) Orkut claims irrevocable unlimited license rights to everything you
post. Most people don't understand what that means. One example of
this is that many of my friends have posted pictures that I've taken.
This is probably not a problem, generally, but they've granted Orkut a
license to use them without consulting me, and created a legal tangle
should I have a problem with that, forcing me to have to perform a
legal struggle with Orkut, because of their unwitting actions. I think
this is rude behavior on the part of Orkut, but their prerogative to
demand.
2) Orkut may share personal information with Google in an unrestricted
way. Google is unwilling (so far) to discuss what use they may make of
that information.
3) Google's privacy policy possibly has some holes in it with regards
to data collected by way of means other than use of the google.com
website.
I suspect that Orkut is a way for Google to gather personal
information about their clientele for marketing purposes, and to try
to form a more solid relationship beyond "I just use Google for search
because it's convenient". This is not terribly nefarious, but the kind
of data that could be collected to do so has wide potential for abuse,
and people should be aware that that's what's going on. Some may not
care, but many people I know are signing up without reading or
understanding the implications of the above three points.
Link
Company Claims Orkut Stole Orkut Code
Company Claims Orkut Stole Orkut Code
06/30/2004 07:19 PMIt's not like it's particularly difficult to write a social networking
systems. These days, at the rate new ones are coming out, it
practically seems like a typical first year CS student's project.
Still, a company named Affinity Engines that builds social networking
products for universities (that just so happens to have been founded
by Orkut Buyukkokten - the creator of orkut.com) is now
suing
Google for stealing their code. From the article, it sounds like
they have a pretty solid claim. First, it's obvious that Orkut had
access to the code. He even continued to work on it while he was at
Google. According to the lawsuit he promised repeatedly that he
wasn't going to work on a similar app for Google, but then did so
anyway. The real damaging point, however, is that Affinity Engines
claims they've found nine identical bugs in Orkut that are also in
their own system -- which certainly makes it quite likely the basic
code is the same.
Orkut
02/10/2004 02:53 AMWell, this thing seems to be taking off. Nat threw in the first
invite, so I signed up, and another half-dozen or so folks have fired
off invites. This is another one of those networking site things, and
I've decided that while I'll go accept invites from anyone I know (I
really need to get a picture up--I'd throw the rainbow parrot pic I
use for iChat, but the TOS seem to indicate that'd be ill-advised) I
don't think I'm going to go to much trouble to actively go search
people out. These things are always interesting to look at,...
Orkut the right way to go?
Orkut the right way to go?
01/26/2004 03:30 AMWhy Orkut Doesn't Work (Ross Mayfield). 
January 25, 2004
Why Orkut Doesn't Work
- Posted by Ross
Mayfield at 11:25 PM
Before we could learn to pronounce it, it was shut down.
Its not that the servers are melting with the rapid rise to
~3
million page views or 500th most popular site in a couple of days. Its
not a conspiracy of data collection or a learning curve.
orkut, which should really be named Oogle,
demonstrated that a high performance explicit social networking site,
well designed for digital immeadiate gratification (one local
engineer personally even complained they had to click from map to
profile to add a friend), supported by brand and with the right root
can unleash latent demand. I would say this is reflective of the
dearth of social capital in our society, but aside from such heady
stuff, frictionless whuffie fun, huh? Latent demand for what is the
question.
Internet researchers would die excruciating deaths in search of the
last days of data. I would venture a guess that most of the digerati
that was already pre-conditions by existing services, an
incomprehensible demographic that grants hypergrowth to the best,
grants the best feedback, but easily taketh away.
okurt doesnt work because it lacks constraints. Nothing holds
people back. Nobody knows what a friend means. No social capital on
the line. Its so fun and easy, choices and incentives are
irrational.
Normally this would raise questions. Some constraints make good
social compact. Some constraints on openness curb pollution (spam,
security). One of the better constraints is price because it lead to
profit.
However, AdSense is relatively frictionless. It adds new
constraints while adding value. Same could be said for other well
targeted forms of content, like blog posts
[Many-to-Many]
Here's what I just posted as a comment on Many-to-Many...
Trying to lock everything into a black or white -
"friend" or not - is the root of the problem (IMHO.)
That's why our
PeopleAggregator FOAF based
social network - has varying levels of degrees of explicit
'relationships'.
Starting from 'Close Friend' and then
'Friend' (both of which need email verification) we relax our
defintion of the relationships by calling the next relationship you
can have with someone - an 'Acquaintance', then a "Know by
Reputation" and then "Know in Passing". which (to me are
nice ways of lessening the quality and depth of the relationship,
while still acknowledging it's existence.
We then have a relationship type - called 'Related
to' (for family relationships) and finally - we end with a blank
"I don't know you, but I want to know you' kind of
acknowledgement of a desire to start a relationship. These 7 levels of
relationship certainly aren't perfect, the best or even a full range
of emotions (notice we stayed away from any sort fo negative
relationships.) But we DID create a scale of sorts - from very close
to not at all - that represents the REAL nature of relationships -
which answers the premise of Ross' complaint.
I agree that social networks need to go beyond just
offering someone to be "your friend" or not. Granualarities of
relationships are the way to go. It's the only way explicit digital
social networks will ever be successful.
orkut - help
orkut - help
02/10/2004 02:54 AMhttp://www.orkut.com/join.html
Any orkut members out there? Me need Invite.... ;)
UPDATE: Got a ton of invites. Thanks :)
"Orkut"
"Orkut"
01/23/2004 05:24 PMOrkut
Orkut
01/23/2004 04:12 PM
I
awoke this morning to an explosion of invitatons to a new social
network called Orkut.
Lots of things to say about it - first and foremost that it's a
really clean, functional and exciting site!
Second - when I tried to join Orkut - I clicked on the 'Join Orkut'
button and it told me - "Sorry you have to be invited into Orkut."
"Oh" I said. "Then why is there a button saying "Join
Orkut?"
That's pretty strange.
Now - the next thing is that Orkut is (apparently) created by Orkut Buyukkokten,
who works at Google and just happens to be the guy who created the
oriignal social network for Stanford - which is now part of Affinity Engines (who have a
new CEO - BTW.)
Orkut has a pretty conspicuos message at the bottom saying
"In affiliation with Google" - so if I was a betting
man, I'd say Google decided NOT to buy Friendster - 'cause they got
their employee Orkut - to roll their own internal system - which (just
happens) to be called Orkut.
That said - let's just hope that Orkut will support FOAF - so we
all can live happily together.
Orkut has Communities in it - so I created a few myself.
Here we go!
orkut
orkut
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R.I.P. Orkut
R.I.P. Orkut
06/10/2004 05:46 PM
Orkut is now a spam-filled waste and inappropriate for professional
use. What
a waste of a good opportunity. I am now starting to
appreciate LinkedIn's more
conservative approach.

Orkut Needs Permachat
Orkut Needs Permachat
02/10/2004 03:02 AM
A community without communication is a dead community and
friendship is more than
just a wall of faces. Connections between people are born out
of interactions
between them and strength of connections are primarily based on the
amount and frequency
of interactions.
So it is communication that binds people and communities together
yet there is little
of that going on in Orkut. Yes, there is the message feature
but it's works
more like radio and discourages interaction. Communities have
topics, but topics
are little rooms one must make effort to enter and
compartmentalized conversations within
a group setting do not encourage others to join in uninvited.
To get around these problems. I think permachats should
be created
centered around individuals and communities. A permachat is
like IRC except
conversations takes place over much longer period, days even.
Visibility of
permachat should be limited to friends or friends of friends
only. Amount is
determined by rate of actvity.To promote interaction and to
encourage
the sense of conversation, sense of time is removed, leaving only
faces and names
next to each entry. Amount of activity within past 24 hours
should be displayed
in the 'view network' and 'my communities' pages using color hints
(i.e. red for hot).
Permachat allows people who know me to communicate with me as well
as others who know
me. This in turns allows them to become friends over time
instead of using more
explicit introduction based social networking. It also allows
interaction without
spammy messages invading private spaces and deteriorating sense of
friendship.
For communities, permachat serves as the single thread that binds
the community.
Topics is too focus-oriented to serve this function.
Permachat allows casual
conversations, encourages interaction, and informs every member
with minimal effort.
And, most importantly, permachat allows new friendship to be born
out these intereactions
among community members just as conversations among friends of an
individual helps
them form new friendships.
A working example of permachat is #joiito.
#joiito IRC channel not only binds the friendship network centered
around Joi,
but also builds a community in itself as people get to know each
other. Topics
come and go just as Joi comes and goes, but the conversation rolls
on and weaves its
social magic around everyone. I think Orkut use a bit of that
magic.

Circuit City - Never Again!
Circuit City - Never Again!
07/20/2004 01:00 PMDirect and Related Links for 'Circuit City -
Never Again!'
“So I needed to buy a DVD player on New Years Eve 2000 (going
onto 2001) because I wanted to watch a couple of movies and happened
to go to Circuit City (the 14th Street Union Square store). At that
time they had a promotion that if one bought a 26” TV or bigger,
you would get a free DVD player. This I felt was the perfect
opportunity to upgrade my crappy 20” TV so…
Alternative to Orkut
Alternative to Orkut
02/10/2004 02:51 AMOnePotMeal announces a new Artificial Social Network for those of us
griping about Orkut: Urkel....
Orkut Experience
Orkut Experience
01/24/2004 09:27 PM
I just registered into Orkut,
thanks to an invitation
from Chris Pirillo --
thanks Chris!;-).
While the registration process was a bit tiring, Orkut UI and user
experience were
more pleasant than Friendster or LinkedIn.
It could use some improvements here and there, but at least it was
pleasant enough
for me to invited a bunch of friends and collegues, something I
haven't done with
other similiar services.
Hmm. It might be interesting to mix PKI with social
networking. For example,
I could issue Friend of Don certificates to my friends
that basically say
“I know this person to be trustworthy, smart, and nice enough
to be my friend.“
What uses would such certificate have? Nothing in the horizon
but I am wondering
what might lie beyond that...
If you are my friend and haven't received an invite from me,
just send me an e-mail.
I just grabbed the names that were handy and definitely missed many
of you whom I
would be proud to call a friend.

Orkut Follies
Orkut Follies
02/10/2004 02:51 AMMichael O'Connor Clarke is writing funnily (here and here) about the
foibles of Orkut. His Monopoly card reminds me of a fake screen
capture I used when talking about Artificial Social Networks (ASN)
such as Orkut. Click for larger view Just in case it's not obvious,
the point is that you can't get over ASNs' inherent binary nature by
adding more binary choices. That is, the problem isn't just that the
choices are too precise; the problem is also that the choices are
necessarily explicit. Social relationships depend on being implicit,
hidden, dark and unspoken....
Why Google needs Orkut
Why Google needs Orkut
02/10/2004 02:49 AMIn all the discussion of Orkut I've seen so far, most folks are busy
comparing Orkut to every other social networking web site around,
typically they mention Friendster ("it's so much faster!"), but as we
all know these sites are a dime a dozen these days. At least it seems
that way. What surprises me is that nobody has looked at it the other
way around: What problems might Orkut solve that Google would
otherwise find significantly more challenging? Those...
Orkut datamining
Orkut datamining
04/25/2004 08:27 AMSomewhat scary, but pretty interesting Orkut datamining. An Orkut density map
and a Orkut
Personal Network GeoMapper. Here's a map of my
network. It doesn't seem to map my complete network. It's also too
bad it's not global yet.
Via Sanford
Orkut Goes Dark, At Least For A Bit
Orkut Goes Dark, At Least For A Bit
01/25/2004 08:34 PMOrkut party
Orkut party
02/10/2004 02:47 AMAn
yone go to the orkut.om launch party last night at Suite 181?. Did
anyone go to the orkut.om launch party last night at Suite 181??? [The Social Software
Weblog]
Sure - I was there. Of course I was there!
I got to meet Orkut for the first time and I made sure that the
FOAF meme was firmly implanted into his cranium.
A lot of people are hoping that Orkut will support FOAF.
Playing around with Orkut
Playing around with Orkut
01/26/2004 10:19 AMshortcomings of Orkut .. Martin Roell ..
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Short Circuit
Short Circuit
04/04/2005 06:03 AMThis month: W. Alan McCollough, CEO of Circuit City Stores.
Orkut don't care about you
Orkut don't care about you
06/03/2004 12:37 AMOrkut
is too busy to play.... It seems the Orkut servers are overloaded
at the moment. I've not been able to login for the past hour.
Hopefully the Orkut team will invest in whatever is needed to help
scale their websites.... [The Jeff Pulver
Blog]
Um - somebody tell Jeff that Google/Orkut doesn't care about you or
the performance of the site. Orkut is a research project meant
to suck end-user behavior patterns and profiles. They don't care
about you.
Exporting from Orkut
Exporting from Orkut
08/11/2004 11:30 AMDoc asks the same question we all want.....
Subtract
People are asking me to be their contact on Multiply. There was an error
processing your request. Please try again. it tells me, with
advice to "contact customer service." I'm not a customer. I don't have
the time. But I do wonder why we need yet another one of these
things.
Ah, one friend just told me Multiply promised to import
Orkut contacts, somehow. That's a good sell, if it can be
done, I guess. If it has other advantages over Orkut, which has become
too slow for me. In fact, it's busy not coming up right now.
[Doc Searls]
Me too! I wanna export from orkut - too!
But to export - we need to get explicit permission from each and
every person - with them 'opting into' the export process. That will
appear as a simple checkbox in folks' settings.
THEN Doc can use FOAFnet to import his social network into Multiply
- theoretically. All Multipl has to do is support the FOAFnet.org spec!
That's EXACTLY why we created it!
Orkut goes International
Orkut goes International
06/20/2004 11:55 PMSo I get this message today.....
Hi Marc,
We've just launched a new feature that allows you to specify the
primary language of your community.
Why would you want to do this?
1. So that everyone posts in one language! As orkut.com gains more
members from around the world, it makes it easier for you and everyone
in your community if people can read each other's posts. This is hard
to do if everyone's speaking different languages. 2. So that you can
search communities by language. This way, when you're looking for new
communities, you'll always find ones that you can read and participate
in.
I say - "right on!"
We all need to start thinking more international! I bet this is
really gonna make Orkut take off even more. Now if they only had
something to do in there.
HHHmmmm - maybe like Gmail, Blogger and Google News.....in the
valley of the search.
Orkut Death
Orkut Death
03/06/2004 02:09 AMHuy
Zing:
My Orkut.com death was a slow painful one that lasted
1.5 hours starting at 20:44 on Monday, February 23, 2004. [via
Danah Boyd]
The edge of Orkut
The edge of Orkut
12/19/2004 03:06 PM
I just got the following message on Orkut.
Limit reached for
number of friends
You have 1024 friends. You can only have up to 1000 friends. Before
you can add more friends, you need to remove
friends.
Partially because I was getting sick of social
networks systems, partially because they were trying to be "exclusive"
with invite only and partially because it was easy, I took the policy
of saying yes to every friend request that didn't look like a
fakester. Now I've found the edge of Orkut. According to Orkut, you
can only have 1000 friends. I guess that's OK compared to the 150 or
so for AIM. This error message reminds me a bit of real life. I know
need to forget someone every time I meet someone I want to remember
because I'm having a buffer overflow on my people recognition
memory.
Now the question is... What do I do with my Orkut network now that
I'm "done"?
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Orkut Bay Area Map
Orkut Bay Area Map
02/18/2004 10:49 PM
I know that Orkut is a tired topic already, but here is a map from
DataWhoreHouse showing
distribution of Orkut members who exposed their general location on
Orkut (via Scoble
a> and Liz at Many2Many).
Hmm, no, I didn't have to pay to get layed.
Mostly what I expected except Silicon Valley looks like Death
Valley for some reason.
A bug?

Orkut for bitches
Orkut for bitches
02/11/2004 04:27 PMMany people email me inquiring after the hounds. How are they? What
are they up to? Do they rule? The answer, quite obviously, is that
they're busy doing Social Software. Networking, as it were, via the
might that is Dogster....
Orkut in action
Orkut in action
02/11/2004 08:26 PMI did finally meet someone who went on dates with three people she
met on Orkut. So far so
good she reports.
Orkut is supplying me with a life so, via
orkut, I got comped into Etech, I got a meeting with VCs, 3 dates had,
three arranged, and lots of people have walked up to me and said, "oh!
hi!"
Orkut Back in Orbit
Orkut Back in Orbit
01/29/2004 02:49 AM
Like the title say, it's online again.

Orkut, Google and Privacy
Orkut, Google and Privacy
02/14/2004 05:25 PMIf I understand this correctly, Google can now link my name and
personal information to all of the Google Web searches I do (or may
have done, as long as the cookie on my computer has been there, prior
to signing up). This is totally outrageous. A company PR person said
she'd look into it. I'll let you know what she says.
FCC Chairman at Circuit City -- I don't
believe it
FCC Chairman at Circuit City -- I don't
believe it
05/14/2004 03:26 PMA
USA Today article reports that FCC Chairman Michael Powell
recently went to Circuit City to switch his phone number to a new
carrier:
FCC Chairman Michael Powell said he switched carriers for
his work wireless phone as well as for his wife and son at a Circuit
City outlet and the moves were done in an hour.
"I was shocked at how well it worked," Powell said. He declined
to identify the carriers but said his name was not on the accounts so
he did not receive favorable treatment.
What kind of stunt is this? Doesn't Powell have an army of factotums
to do this kind of thing for him? And how was he able to change a
phone account that didn't have his name on it? Furthermore, didn't the
Circuit City people ask to see an ID to see if his name matched the
name on the phone account? How did he pay for the account -- using a
credit card with a fake name on it?
LinkSalon discusses Orkut
Salon discusses Orkut
06/16/2004 03:59 AMYou are who you
know
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Circuit City a Little Short?
Circuit City a Little Short?
06/04/2004 03:25 PMCircuit City's first-quarter sales figures yield some improvement, but
guess whose look better?
Orkut Newsletter Spam?
Orkut Newsletter Spam?
05/25/2004 02:21 AMWell, it seems that Orkut is now sending out a newsletter to members.
Mine looks something like this: Hey Jeremy, You have 162 friends: -
145 friends - 5 acquaintances - 12 haven't met New members in your
network since May 16th: - 2 new friends - 33 new friends of friends -
2490 new friends of friends of friends Friends of friends you might be
interested in meeting: - Joi Ito
http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=1405190888294923508 - Ask
Bjørn Hansen
http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=5207100656550035736 -
Mitchell...
Warren Ellis on Orkut
Warren Ellis on Orkut
01/26/2004 02:57 PMOrkut, the recently-launched,
Google-affiliated FOAF (Cory critiques them -- and the bigger FOAF
picture --
here), is offline for a while. Before the temporary beta
outage, Warren Ellis logged on, sniffed around, then said:
Right now, it looks pretty much like an iteration of the Tribe.net
system, with an eye on Friendster's apparent main function as a dating
system. (Which means, oddly, it requests your business profile at the
same time as it's asking you where you like to be fingered.) (...)
It's faster than Fuckster and Tribe, but it shows that all these
friend-of-a-friend things have really hit a wall. I mean, what can you
actually do aside from invite all your friends and piss about on a
couple of small message boards? Message boards that, unlike Tribe,
allow anonymous postings and therefore devalue the message board
experience? What happens after that? After you've gotten all your
friends in -- whom you send email to or IM regularly in any case,
presumably. That's it. All done. Until, I guess, yet another social
network system opens and you start all over again.
These things want to be a hub for your Internet community experience,
but they're just not necessary enough. Tribe gets closest, but it's
nothing you're going to leave as an open window on your desktop all
day. The first new social network system that builds an IM program
into its structure may have a shot. The Delphiforums message boards
have Jabber tacked on to them, which would have been brilliant when
Delphi was at its height, but has gone pretty much unnoticed in the
wake of their self-mutilating half-smart attempts to monetise. The
idea was and is sound. The minute you make these things the easiest
and most direct way to communicate with the personal network the
system's let you build or collate, there's going to be a reason to
keep the site on your desktop. And that has to be their goal. I mean,
who builds a social network system that doesn't want people to use it
all the time?
LinkQt universal circuit simulator
Qt universal circuit simulator
12/08/2003 12:56 PMQucs 0.0.1 has been released.
First Ever Nanotube Transistors On A
Circuit
First Ever Nanotube Transistors On A
Circuit
01/07/2004 02:38 PMbtsdev writes "Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley
and Stanford University have developed the first ever integrated
silicon circuit with ...
Pity Circuit City
Pity Circuit City
12/19/2004 03:27 PMCircuit City sales are still slacking. How about trying something
different?
Circuit City's Improving
Circuit City's Improving
09/17/2004 02:33 PMThe No. 2 electronics retailer is making strides and beats estimates.
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