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FOAF and GROUPS 01/07/2004 05:14 PM
FOAF and Groups. Right.

FOAF and Groups

Right. So, in the never ending struggle that is RDF, foaf:group is another property that's a "work in progress". Here are some notes:

In the spec, foaf:Group is a container of foaf:Agents (of which foaf:Person is a subclass). It's ideal for representing groups of anything, from companies to mailing lists to knitting clubs.

Bill Kearney tried to poke at it in July, and had some issues.

My particular issue is you can make a "group" FOAF file, in which the group describes all it's members, but there's no easy way for a "person" FOAF file to say that it's a member of a group.

Partly that's by design: "The current design names the relationship as pointing from the group, to the member."

So, if I wanted to represent group membership in a "Person" FOAF file, here's how I think I have to do it with the vocab of today:

...
<foaf:Person rdf:nodeID="me">
   <foaf:blah>...</foaf:blah>
</foaf:Person>
<foaf:Group rdf:nodeID="spelunkers">
   <rdfs:seeAlso rdf:resource="http://example.com/groupfile.rdf"
/>
   <foaf:member rdf:nodeID="me" />
</foaf:Group>
...

Now, that seems a bit complicated. I can parse it and fish around for the right way of looking at things, but wouldn't something like this make more sense:

...
<foaf:Person rdf:nodeID="me">
   <foaf:blah>...</foaf:blah>
   <foaf:memberOf
rdf:resource="http://example.com/groupfile.rdf#spelunkers" />
</foaf:Person>
...

So foaf:memberOf would have a domain of foaf:Person (foaf:Agent?) and a range of rdf:resource that points to the "authoritative" group file that has all the other info in it (join dates, membership classes, etc.).

(side rant: Here's where a really sticky part of FOAF which confuses the hell out of some, and others ignore. Where do I go to talk about this / suggest things? The Issue Tracker? The wiki? The IRC channel? The mailing list? The project web site? The weblog? Too many tools!)

So, what am I forgetting? Does this make sense? And if it doesn't make sense, how would you go about representing that a foaf:Person is a part of a group without the group FOAF file?[esigler.2nw.net/blog]

 

I will be reposting this to the rdfweb list.  But Eric's right - there are too many places to.  But that's whty they call it 'open'. If there were only one, and someone controled it, then you'd complain that it was closed.  This anarchistic way of adding features to FOAF is kind of fun. 

But the big test will be once Eric launches the next version of PeopleAggregator (next week - right?) at which point, we have to ask the existing world of FOAF - which is basically Typepad and Ecademy and a bunch of research/open projects - to update their definition of FOAF to include foaf:topic - so we can define a FOAF file as being MY FOAF file.


Groups, Individuals or both?


Groups, Individuals or both? 07/28/2004 02:54 PM

Jon Udell had an interesting post on Shibboleth, which is an authentication system for the Internet2 (among other applications....)

I met the Shibboleth folks at last year's DigitalID world. They're doing real stuff.

Anyway Jon brings up the notion of group identification, as opposed to individual. My feeling - is that we want - both!

Here's Jon's post....

In last week's column, I suggested that individuals and
corporations should be the authoritative sources of basic information about
themselves. That way, if an application needs my name, address, and phone
number, I can refer it to a source that I control and guarantee to be correct.
But how many applications really need my name, address, and phone number?
Capturing the identity of individuals, along with personal information about
them, has become a habit. In a climate of increasing concern about privacy,
it's a bad habit we must learn to resist. [Full story at InfoWorld.com]


As I mention in this week's column, the notion of selective disclosure is a
core value of href="http://shibboleth.internet2.edu/">Shibboleth, an Internet2 project
that's gaining some real traction in the higher-ed world.


What's up with the name 'Shibboleth'? Here's the scoop:

A shibboleth is a kind of
linguistic password: A way of speaking (a pronunciation, or the use of a
particular expression) that identifies one as a member of an 'in' group. The
purpose of a shibboleth is exclusionary as much as inclusionary: A person
whose way of speaking violates a shibboleth is identified as an outsider and
thereby excluded by the group. (This phenomenon is part of the "Judge a book
by its cover" tendency apparently embedded in human cognition, and the use of
language to distinguish social groups).

The story behind the word is
recorded in the biblical Book of Judges. The word shibboleth in ancient Hebrew
dialects meant 'ear of grain' (or, some say, 'stream'). Some groups pronounced
it with a sh sound, but speakers of related dialects pronounced it with an s.
[Suzanne
Kemmer
]
The federated identity system called Shibboleth deals
with group membership, rather than individual identity. It's interesting to
think about use cases, outside higher ed, that don't require the identification
of individuals. Consider website registration. The New York Times, or InfoWorld, or other media
sites that want to qualify readers to their advertisers, don't really need to
know me as an individual. They just need to aggregate readers into groups. From
the Times' perspective, I'm a member of the group of American male writers who
work in Media/Publishing/Broadcasting and who read the Times regularly but do
not subscribe. From InfoWorld's perspective, I'm a member of the group of
consultants (Technical) working in the area of Tech: Publishing who strategize
about (but do not directly purchase) IT assets.


What if it were possible -- and convenient -- to affiliate with these groups
without giving up personally identifying information? In reaction to
registration regimes that are too granular, the bugmenot.c om
hack abolishes granularity. But maybe there's a middle ground.

[Jon Udell]


Charging for Groups


Charging for Groups 09/21/2004 10:14 AM

We discovered an intersting thing at 1UP.com - companies are willing to pay to get into the social networking space.

Whenever they hear about lots of people congragating - their ears perk up.

So Tony Perkins - and his AlwaysOn Network has decided to monetize that - and charge for Groups in it's Zaibatsu social network. The first one was announced yesterday - with Audi.

Here's the details:

We are pleased to announce that Audi of America is the first AlwaysOn Media Partner to launch its own Keiretsu on the AO network. AlwaysOn is the first media site to offer its partners a community building service that combines both blogging and social networking capabilities.

All AO members can join the Audi of America Keiretsu for FREE. It’s easy, so check it out!

http://audiamerica.alwayson-network.com

AO members who join the Audi of America’s Keiretsu will enjoy future special offers and privileges exclusive to members.

“Our new group social network and blog site on AlwaysOn provides Audi the unique opportunity to identify smart executives and entrepreneurs in the global Silicon Valley arena and gain their feedback and create a dialogue on technology trends in our industry,” said Jim McGough, Director of Audi America.

“Our new AO Keiretsu also allows Audi enthusiasts within the AlwaysOn
community to find and interact with each other. This kind of community building tool offers Audi an opportunity to target a market of smart executives in a way that has never been possible before.,” said Mr. McGough.

In the next couple of weeks, AlwaysOn is planning to roll-out additional Keiretsus on behalf of many of our other Media Partners including Sun Microsystems, KPMG, Quova, Porter Novelli and SupportSoft.

Commercial brands interested in launching their own AlwaysOn Keiretsu and learning more about our Media Partner Program should contact my partner Mike Sly at sly@alwayson-network.com.

AlwaysOn also offers related non-profits and trade associations the Keiretsu service for at no charge. To see if your group qualifies for the AO Keiretsu program, contact Brennan Igoe at brennan@alwayson-network.com.

As always, we look forward to any feedback on our new Keiretsu offering or any other service we provide. If you would like to make your comments public to other Ao members, check out my new post at:

http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=6012_0_2_0_C

Best/tp

Tony Perkins
Founder/Editor
www.alwayson-network.com

Next one up - Sun.


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Review of new Yahoo Groups


Review of new Yahoo Groups 03/27/2005 08:26 AM

Of couse I don't like the new Yahoo Groups user interface, no surprise there, when you've become accustomed the way a piece of software works, and it changes, unexpectedly, well, it's like waking from a dream, one you weren't even aware you were having.

Certain things seem totally wrong, like the huge places for pictures for each of the groups. Most groups don't have them, so the box says "add photo." I wonder if more people are going to add photos now (and was it an attempt to be like Flickr, I wonder?) The tradeoff seems unreasonable. Now there's room for far-fewer groups on a page.

They also vertically expanded the listing for members and messages, again, you can see fewer on a page. Maybe they're displaying more information, but there's also a lot more white space, which in some contexts could be nice, but here, is a waste, making you work harder to find the same information you found before.

They did change one thing that's not cosmetic, now all members can browse the member lists of groups. I wonder how much they thought this through, I'm pretty sure I don't belong to any groups I wouldn't want people to know about. Hmmm.


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