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sam on atom

sam on atom 12/30/2003 01:16 AM

Sam posts his thoughts and plans regarding Atom and how he will maintain RSS support for his weblog. Thanks Sam! Every bit of information helps.




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It's fascinating to read the comments on Russell Beattie's post about the Atom API. His concern is that he won't be able to build a client that talks to a weblog server through his Java toolkit because it doesn't allow the HTTP methods the API calls for. Further, he notes that the spec, which was openly developed, has a restrictive copyright.

The best answer is obvious, imho, use XML-RPC because it already has been adapted to and debugged in all the environments where blogging APIs need to run. By cutting almost to the bottom of the stack you will have to redo everything that took years to do. I think it's going to take longer to redo because XML-RPC didn't need to get any Java toolkits to change, it treaded more softly than the Atom does.

There's a practical side to protocol and format design that's missing in the Atom API. The goal is to make it easy for developers to hop on the bandwagon and get them committed to developing for the platform. Putting unnecessary hurdles in the way unnecessarily limits adoption, and virtually guarantees either stagnation or massive breakage. I can't imagine that either choice is what Google is looking for.

XML-RPC was designed for what they want to do and it's stood the test of time. Learn to love the pragmatic, it's how you're going to win the wars with Yahoo, Microsoft and everyone else who wants to eat your lunch.


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At the moment this information will be useful to a small roomful of people, but this site is now serving an Atom 0.3 feed here. It should v alidate.

I’d planned all along to fold Atom support into rhymes-with-vexed-slattern; I’ve finally got around to it now that the spec is looking pretty solid with version 0.3.

For those to whom this is all Greek, Atom is a new form of AI technology that listens to all websites simultaneously, looking for anyone badmouthing you and those batting for your team; Atom responds by firing back custom-made insults and denunciations including but not limited to accusations of hypocrisy and pot-kettle-black.


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Looks like the W3C wants the Atom community to work through them.

I'm undecided whether or not I'm for this. On the one hand, the W3C certainly has the tools to promote and document Atom. On the other hand, adding Atom to their semantic web effort could make Atom even more complex - and simplicity is what makes RSS so great, despite it's imprecise specification (via Scoble).


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Link (via Dive Into Mark) [Boing Boing Blog]

Coolio - we're getting closer.  Too bad I don't blog with TypePad or use a Mac.

But I do play one in a Soap Opera.


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