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Debate - Hand Coding: the Ultimate Freedom







Debate - Hand Coding: the Ultimate
Freedom

Debate - Hand Coding: the Ultimate
Freedom
12/16/2002 11:24 PM

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...on Friday we launched a platform rearchitecture based on loose-coupling, web standards, and a move from JSP (via Tomcat) to PHP. The website doesn't look much different, but hopefully we can now stop being a byword for unacceptably poky site performance.

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As for J2EE, there is plenty reason why this needs to be the direction for future development of [App Name] and, in fact, all other Open Source enterprise software. PHP simply does not scale and does not offer the richness of development tools that J2EE does through the many open source projects implementing and surrounding it. There are a lot of misconceptions about J2EE that abound because many people/companies misuse/misunderstand it. It is not difficult/expensive to set up, it is not harder to develop for (past the learning curve), and it is certainly not slow (in fact, performance is one reason we are moving away from PHP's limiting CGI-like architecture).

PHP is only good for simple, lightweight web apps. J2EE is good for professional enterprise-class applications, which is what [App Name] is going to become. In the end, [App Name] development is going to become faster and far more professional and the software itself is going to become far more reliable, extensible and sophisticated.

I am wickedly biting my tonque over this, but, I tell you, I could not disagree more completely with everything this guy has written. BUT — it's not my project anymore, and this guy has really done good things with it in terms of developing a community and adding functionality. Perhaps the benefits he brought there will offset this error.

(I'm not going to mention the name of the project, because I don't want to start a war of words or anything. If you know the name of the project, please keep it to yourself. I hate to censor anything, but I'll get rid of any comments that identify the app or the developer. Thanks.)

After that little rant, it may seem strange for me to say that I'm trying not to get hung up on platforms lately. My buddy Matt has been pelting my with .Net propaganda, and Joe told me that it's fantastic as well ("I tried really hard to hate it..."). This being the case, I'm trying to stay platform neutral these days and concentrate on app design and usability, without regard for what platform the app is written in.

I've recently use PHP to write perhaps the best app I've ever designed, but I'm trying not to identify it with PHP so much. I'm trying to think that the value of the app is in the design, the flow, and the usability, and that we could re-write it in any platform that makes sense. (See this post for much more on this note.)

So why am I so hot about the aofrementioned Java re-write? Because that app is designed for organizations with very, very limited computer budgets and resources. For them to set-up a PHP-capable Web server is probably asking too much, but it was the lowest barrier to entry I could find. Above, I said "re-write it in any platform that makes sense" — I don't see that Java makes any sense here.

Okay, rant over. I've probably said too much already. I know this post will offend someone, and I apologize in advance while bracing for the deluge.

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