Feedback about XAML wanted

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Hello XAML

Hello XAML 11/10/2003 11:12 PM
Don creates not one, but two versions of "Hello World" in XAML.  The delicious fragrance of epic battles is in the air.

XAML revealed

XAML revealed 11/05/2003 02:30 PM

Don Box: XAML is just an XML-based way to wire up CLR types no more no less...  XAML is domain-neutral, so while it may be used to create desktop apps, web pages, and printable documents, it could also be used to create CRM apps, blogging backends, or highly concurrent web services provided you had a supporting CLR-based library to do the heavy lifting.

I guess that clears that up.

No dynamic XAML?

No dynamic XAML? 11/10/2003 11:11 PM

Let's assume for a moment, that XAML is HTML "done right" for rich clients (suspend disbelief if you have to).  It apparently SVG like elements, if nothing else.  It doesn't have CSS, but apparently there are other ways of solving similar problems being proposed.

Apparently, one can embed small amounts of code in the markup.  Unquestionably controversial, but often handy.  This corresponds roughly to the role that JavaScript plays in HTML... or does it?

What about Dynamic HTML?  Namely the ability to modify the rendering and content of the document on the fly?  Isn't that lost by a compile to bytecode approach?

XAML Tour

XAML Tour 11/11/2003 05:44 PM
So I've described the 5 families of Avalon Elements: Panels, Controls, Shapes, Decorators, & ContentElements.

Avalon/XAML First Look

Avalon/XAML First Look 04/14/2005 04:55 PM
Familar with Microsoft's new XAML? I wasn't, until recently.

XAML and WinForms

XAML and WinForms 11/11/2003 06:52 PM
Don's post about XAML as CLR object graph persistence...showed off the namespace mapping feature, which leads Werner to speculate about whether you can write WinForms UI from XAML

IE Development: XAML

IE Development: XAML 10/28/2003 11:06 PM
Looks like the covers are slowly slipping off - a glimpse of Microsoft's browser strategy focussing on web applications has turned up overnight, courtesy Simon and Eric. What all this is about: XUL, or XML User Interface Language was...

XAML and... Swing

XAML and... Swing 12/30/2003 01:17 AM

Let's see. There's this new language+API. It is, in theory platform independent. It's pretty high level. Below the high-level description, it runs on top of a virtual machine. It's verbose. Some people say it will never work.

Gotta be Swing, right?

How about XAML?

On Saturday Sam commented on a XAML example. He makes a number of good points. Which jump-started earlier XAML-related musings.

XAML will be Windows-only, so in that sense the comparison is stretched. But this is a matter of practice, in theory an XML-based language could be made portable (when there's a will there's a way). XAML was compared a lot to Mozilla's XUL, and rightly so, but I think there are some parallels between it and Swing as well.

One big difference that XAML will have, for sure, is that it will have a nice UI designer, something that Swing still lacks. On the other hand, I think that whatever code an automated designer generates will be horribly bloated. And who will be able to write XAML by hand? And: the problem of "bytecode protection" in Java comes back with XAML, but with a vengeance. How will the code be protected? Obfuscation of XML code? Really? How would it be validated then? And why hasn't anyone talked about this.

And another thing: Sun has shown in the past few years that they've taken a liking to countering Microsoft announcements with some of their own. ie., MS comes out with Web services, they come out with web services. MS does X, Sun does it too, but in Java. One wish: that Sun would ignore XAML and just continue improving Swing, and create a simple, good UI designer for Swing. Supposedly Project Rave will do this... but here's hoping there won't be any course corrections simply to show up Microsoft. Please, pretty please, Sun.

On a related note, Robert says this regarding XAML:

[...] you will see some business build two sites: one in HTML and one in XAML. Why? Because they'll be able to offer their customers experiences that are impossible to deliver in HTML.

Come on, Robert, these days, when everyone's resources are stretched to the limit, when CIOs want to squeeze every possible drop of code from their people, when everyone works 60-hour weeks as a matter of common practice, are you seriously saying that companies will have two teams to develop a single website? Is this Microsoft's selling point? "Here, just retrain all of your people, and double the size and expense of your development team, and you'll be fine."

Of course not. Most companies will have one team, not two. Hence, logically, either people will use it or won't, without a lot of middle ground in between. That leaves two possibilities: 1) XAML will be niche and never really used a lot (think ActiveX, or, hey, even Java Applets!) or 2) XAML will kill HTML.

Which one do you think Microsoft is betting on?

XAML is for humans

XAML is for humans 11/10/2003 11:12 PM

Don Box: Today, the data needed to initialize an object graph is hidden behind imperative statements in your programming language of choice. That makes it difficult to tease out of the rest of your program without weird markers in the source code to delimit the structure of your code into recognizable pieces.

My previous post on this subject had more to it, but I chickened out and didn't post it.  What the heck, I could be wrong, but... here's essentially what I said.

...

Xamlon: XAML for .NET 1.1

Xamlon: XAML for .NET 1.1 01/07/2004 02:33 PM

A former colleague/collaborator, Paul Colton, has just released a new product called Xamlon, which provides a simple XAML implementation on top of .NET 1.1 and the Windows Forms framework.  For those not familiar with Paul, he founded LiveSoftware, and created JRun, the first commercial Java Servlet engine -- he and his team went on to invent what became JSP and JSP Tag Libraries (what they called Dynamic Taglets), and CF_Anywhere, a CFML processor on top of their Java Tag framework.  Paul left Allaire after we acquired LiveSoftware, and has been playing around with a lot of ideas, but this one seems pretty cool! 

XAML is the new XML-based user interface programming language that will be part of the Windows Longhorn release in 2006.  Paul clearly liked XAML and thought that developers would be interested in developing with it (albeit much smaller/simpler in scale and richness) today.  This will be an interesting project to track.

 

 

First XAML, Now MAML

First XAML, Now MAML 07/26/2004 12:50 AM
MAML stands for Microsoft Assistance Markup Language. It's the next step in the evolution of help systems. It looks really cool, and having just spent the week taking apart MSHelp2, I'm wishing I could use it right now.

Data Styling in XAML

Data Styling in XAML 05/07/2004 10:46 AM
Joe Marini has already posted a WinHEC build-ready Longhorn sample. In this sample, Joe uses only XAML to read data from an XML data source and display it using a technique called "Data Styling."

XAML Extended Attributes

XAML Extended Attributes 12/02/2003 01:55 AM
This is the one where Chris Sell's XAML example triggers two completely different trains of thought ...

PDC: Some concerns about Avalon, XAML

PDC: Some concerns about Avalon, XAML 10/28/2003 11:06 PM

Longhorn: Controls and XAML

Longhorn: Controls and XAML 12/18/2003 12:58 AM
Longhorn platform applications typically consist of an Application object and a set of user interface pages that you write in a declarative markup language called XAML. The Application object is a singleton and persists throughout the lifetime of the application. It allows your application logic to handle top-level events and share code and state among pages. The Application object also determines whether the application is a single window application or a navigation application. You typically write each user interface page using a dialect of XML named Extensible Application Markup Language (XAML). Each page consists of XAML elements, text nodes, and other components organized in a hierarchical tree. The hierarchical relationship of these components determines how the page renders and behaves. You can also consider a XAML page to be a description of an object model. When the runtime creates the page, it instantiates each of the elements and nodes described in the XAML document and creates an equivalent object model in memory. You can manipulate this object model programmatically—for example, you can add and remove elements and nodes to cause the page to render and behave differently.

XAMJ - Alternative to HTML, XAML, XUL

XAMJ - Alternative to HTML, XAML, XUL 06/05/2005 10:57 PM
XAMJ 0.91 Released

Bloghorn: A Blog Reader Built in XAML

Bloghorn: A Blog Reader Built in XAML 04/12/2004 11:20 PM
The next version of the Microsoft Windows® operating system, code named "Longhorn", contains an exciting new technology called XAML, which is an acronym for the "eXtensible Application Markup Language". XAML (pronounced zam-el) allows you to specify the user interface portion of your Windows® applications using markup to represent the usual items in an application, such as controls, text, hyperlinks, images, etc. XAML itself is built on top of a technology named Avalon, which brings a compositing, vector-based rendering engine to the Windows desktop.

Commentary: Avalon and XAML Great for
Developers, But...

Commentary: Avalon and XAML Great for
Developers, But... 10/31/2003 10:36 AM

MOBIFORM Software to Help Deliver XAML
to Windows

MOBIFORM Software to Help Deliver XAML
to Windows 01/05/2004 06:51 PM
BC Technology Jan 5 2004 6:34PM ET

Introducing "Longhorn" for Developers -
Chapter 3: Controls and XAML

Introducing "Longhorn" for Developers -
Chapter 3: Controls and XAML 12/14/2003 10:10 AM
Fundamentally, a XAML page describes the classes that the runtime should create, the property values and event handlers for the instances of the classes, and an object model hierarchy—that is, which instance is the parent of another instance.

Miguel de Icaza on Mono, Ximian/Novell,
XAML

Miguel de Icaza on Mono, Ximian/Novell,
XAML 04/29/2004 12:16 AM

MSDN TV: Special Holiday Episode - XAML
Beyond the Basics

MSDN TV: Special Holiday Episode - XAML
Beyond the Basics 12/18/2003 09:45 PM
In this special holiday episode, Chris Anderson and Don Box begin by showing how to use the new XAML programming model for more than just building UI applications with Avalon and end with songs of holiday cheer.

Miguel de Icaza on Mono, Ximian/Novell,
XAML

Miguel de Icaza on Mono, Ximian/Novell,
XAML 04/29/2004 12:25 AM
Slashdot Apr 29 2004 5:08AM GMT

DirectX Mesh File to XAML Converter Tool

DirectX Mesh File to XAML Converter Tool 06/11/2004 09:04 PM
Ian Griffiths, not content with using Notepad to create 3D meshes in XAML, provides us this tool to convert from DirectX mesh files, which he hopes will let you use more full-featured tools to create your 3D XAML elements.

XAML IntelliSence Patch for PDC Visual
Studio .NET "Whidbey"

XAML IntelliSence Patch for PDC Visual
Studio .NET "Whidbey" 12/03/2003 12:40 AM
The IntelliSense in the PDC bits while editing XAML had problems inside Style elements as well as when completing tags and reformatting. This patch addresses those issues to improve the developer experience.

Building Data-Bound User Interfaces in
XAML

Building Data-Bound User Interfaces in
XAML 07/23/2004 07:42 PM
Joe Marini Illustrates a new way of building dynamic user interfaces that automatically respond to changes in a data model and update their appearance by using binding relationships between the elements in the UI. This example uses a 100 percent XAML approach to demonstrate these relationships.

Chris Anderson's XAML Editor Tool
Updated for the March CTP

Chris Anderson's XAML Editor Tool
Updated for the March CTP 03/29/2005 06:25 AM
Chris Anderson has updated XamlPad for the March 2005 CTP of Avalon and renamed it AvPad. As a tool for learning and experimenting with XAML/Avalon, it can't be beat.

Thanks for the Feedback

Thanks for the Feedback 02/10/2004 02:42 AM
First of all, Thanks to everyone who keeps harassing me to update my blog. I always find it surprising to see how many people actually read it. Your positive (and in some cases negative) feedback is appreciated. This Month on...

"Feedback"

"Feedback" 06/25/2004 08:56 AM

"Feedback (0)"

"Feedback (0)" 06/03/2004 12:52 AM

Feedback

Feedback 05/24/2004 06:27 AM
Letters. Updates. Advice.

MMS 2004 Feedback

MMS 2004 Feedback 09/25/2004 03:58 AM

Echo is Feedback

Echo is Feedback 02/14/2004 02:47 PM
Joi makes the case that the echo chamber effect in blogspace has a positive attribute and is not communal censorship. Essentially, creative and social networks deliberate to construct fit memes. Related, Kevin Marks and Tantek Çelik developed Vote Links to...

WIPO Wants Your Feedback

WIPO Wants Your Feedback 06/05/2005 10:57 PM

Feedback On Proposal

Feedback On Proposal 07/10/2004 03:04 AM
By Dave Hyatt (via MyAppleMenu)
See Also : Implementation Of HTML Extensions Proposal by Dave Hyatt

Feedback loops

Feedback loops 04/29/2004 08:58 AM
Is this feed valid?  Both SharpReader and Bloglines handle it flawlessly.  In fact, there are active blogline subscribers. The feedvalidator chokes on it. ...

Bloglines Feedback

Bloglines Feedback 04/09/2004 04:00 PM
As I mentioned a while ago, I'm now using Bloglines as my news/blogs/rss/etc aggregator. It took a bit of time to adjust to using the service, but overall I'm pretty happy with it so far. It has caused me to change the way I read in a few ways, but nothing earth shattering. And I've found a few minor annoyances along the way too. Changes First off, I had to adjust the way I update the blogroll on the right...

Traffic-Based Feedback on the Web

Traffic-Based Feedback on the Web 08/15/2004 06:13 AM
Traffic-Based Feedback on the Web by Jonathan Aizen, Daniel Huttenlocher, Jon Kleinberg, and Antal Novak
http://ww w.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/0307539100v1

Abstract:
Usage data at a high-traffic web site can expose information about external events and surges in popularity that may not be accessible solely from analyses of content and link structure. We consider sites that are organized around a set of items available for purchase or download, consider, for example, an e-commerce site or collection of online research papers, and we study a simple indicator of collective user interest in an item, the batting average, defined as the fraction of visits to an item’s description that result in an acquisition of that item. We develop a stochastic model for identifying points in time at which an item’s batting average experiences significant change. In experiments with usage data from the Internet Archive, we find that such changes often occur in an abrupt, discrete fashion, and that these changes can be closely aligned with events such as the highlighting of an item on the site or the appearance of a link from an active external referrer. In this way, analyzing the dynamics of item popularity at an active web site can help characterize the impact of a range of events taking place both on and off the site. This has been added to the articles section Deep Web Research Subject Tracer™ Information Blog.

Windows Server Feedback

Windows Server Feedback 04/16/2004 12:54 AM
Help us improve Windows Server by providing us with your suggestions and ideas. All feedback submitted will be sent to the Windows Server Development Team for review and analysis. Your ideas can impact Windows Server in many ways, and might even be incorporated into new Service Packs, Feature Packs, or the next Windows Server release.
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eXtensible Business Reporting Language
(XBRL)

eXtensible Business Reporting Language
(XBRL) 01/23/2004 02:21 PM
eXtensible Business Reporting Language (XBRL)
http://www.xbrl.org/

eXtensible Business Reporting Language (XBRL) brings the publication, exchange, and analysis of the complex financial information in corporate business reports into the dynamic and interactive realm of the internet. XBRL provides a common platform for critical business reporting processes and improves the reliability and ease of communicating financial data among users internal and external to the reporting enterprise. XBRL is an XML-based, royalty-free, and open standard being developed by XBRL International Inc., which is a not-for-profit consortium of around 200 companies and agencies, delivering benefits to investors, accountants, regulators, executives, business and financial analysts, and information providers.

Working Drafts: Extensible Stylesheet
Language (XSL) Version 1.1

Working Drafts: Extensible Stylesheet
Language (XSL) Version 1.1 12/17/2003 01:09 PM
2003-12-17: The XSL Working Group has released the first public Working Drafts of the Extensible Stylesheet Language (XSL) Version 1.1 and its Requirements. Version 1.1 updates the XSL 1.0 Recommendation for change marks, indexes, multiple flows, and bookmarks, and extends support for graphics scaling, markers, and page numbers. Comments are invited. Read about the XML Activity. (News archive)

Working Draft: Extensible Stylesheet
Language (XSL) Version 1.1

Working Draft: Extensible Stylesheet
Language (XSL) Version 1.1 12/19/2004 03:26 PM
2004-12-16: The XSL Working Group has released an updated Working Draft of the Extensible Stylesheet Language (XSL) Version 1.1. Version 1.1 updates the XSL 1.0 Recommendation for change marks, indexes, multiple flows, and bookmarks, and extends support for graphics scaling, markers, and page numbers. Comments are invited. Read about the XML Activity. (News archive)

FML: Fiction Markup Language

FML: Fiction Markup Language 01/16/2004 11:33 AM

When is someone going to come up with Fiction Markup Language — an XML spec solely for annotating fiction? For example:

Take perhaps the greatest novel ever written: Ian Fleming's 1953 classic "Casino Royale." Let's break this down from a big chunk of text to make up something more usable.

Obviously, you could mark the chapters and section numbers, but let's go further into the actual content of the narrative. Begin by surrounding all spoken text with tags. For example:

Perhaps you can have another attribute for "target" to identify to whom he's speaking. Then I could do an XPath query to find everything James Bond said to Vesper Lynd in the entire book.

And how about locations? Surround passages with their physical location, like the casino floor, Bond's hotel room, etc. (where appropriate — wouldn't work in all situations). I could then use XPath to find all the unique locations in the book (this would be great for the globe-hopping James Bond novels).

Identify "action" passages and mark them. How about the death of a character? Mark them so I can immediately find out where Le Chiffre was killed and read how it happened.

Introductions of characters are another thing. Mark the first appearance of each character so if I can't remember who someone is, I can go back and find where they first appeared and who they are.

I'm reading Tom Clancy's "Politika" right now, and I can hardly keep track of everyone. It'd be handy to be able to print a "report" showing who everyone is. (A good ebook client implementation of this would know what page the reader was on and not report anything past that page as to not spoil anything.)

Maybe mark the beginning and ending of pages as they appeared in the original publication. And have some way for an expert to insert commentary about the text.

James Bond novels are one thing, but imagine if someone did this for, say, "War and Peace". It would be like Cliffs Notes embedded in the text of the book.

There's unexplored potential here. I can't be the first person to think of this. (And another question: is this just an attempt to completely suck the soul right out of fiction? Should we just leave it the hell alone?)

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MRL (Markup Recipe Language)

MRL (Markup Recipe Language) 01/25/2004 08:35 PM
Web site updated

Annotated Gel Markup Language Project

Annotated Gel Markup Language Project 01/29/2004 03:02 PM
Research Article Published

ELML - eLesson Markup Language

ELML - eLesson Markup Language 03/30/2005 09:31 AM
Beta-Support of IMS Content Package

JFCML - JFC/Swing XML Markup Language

JFCML - JFC/Swing XML Markup Language 09/13/2004 01:09 PM
Project JFCML History

Recipe Exchange Markup Language

Recipe Exchange Markup Language 03/22/2005 06:23 PM
Dohh, reml-ref exe property says v0.5, but it is v0.6

Requirements for the Ink Markup Language
Published

Requirements for the Ink Markup Language
Published 01/22/2003 02:35 PM
22 January 2003: The Multimodal Interaction Working Group has released Requirements for the Ink Markup Language as a W3C Note. This data format represents ink entered with an electronic pen or stylus, and is used to input and process handwriting, gestures, sketches, music and other notational languages. Read about the Multimodal Interaction Activity. (News archive)

W3c Gets Behind Speech Synthesis Markup
Language

W3c Gets Behind Speech Synthesis Markup
Language 09/09/2004 02:44 PM
CRM Assist Sep 9 2004 6:27PM GMT

PHP Template Markup Language (ztml)

PHP Template Markup Language (ztml) 05/08/2004 10:36 AM
First alpha version released

Conflict Resolution Markup Language

Conflict Resolution Markup Language 11/07/2003 02:07 AM
Equiforum and CRML

Hate-pertext Markup Language

Hate-pertext Markup Language 04/09/2004 04:10 PM
There are quite a few conspiracy theories flying around the Net regarding Lockergnome's most recent "White Album" redesign. Blogger reaction? Overwhelmingly negative. Gnomie reaction? Overwhelmingly positive. Bottom line? We're still working on it - as well as a billion other things. I'm not asking for slack, but jumping Jesus on a pogo stick - there are only so many hours in the day. We're doing our best here, and appreciate the constructive criticism and code suggestions. Hell, maybe we should "open source" the SOB....

Ink Markup Language Working Draft
Published

Ink Markup Language Working Draft
Published 03/06/2004 01:50 AM
2004-02-23: The Multimodal Interaction Working Group has released a second Working Draft of the Ink Markup Language (InkML). The InkML data format is used to represent ink entered with an electronic pen or stylus. Ink-aware Web applications can process and exchange handwriting, gestures, sketches, music and other notational languages. Visit the Multimodal Interaction home page. (News archive)

Systems Biology Markup Language (SBML)

Systems Biology Markup Language (SBML) 09/23/2004 03:18 AM
SBMLToolbox 1.0.2 Released

Speech Synthesis Markup Language Is a
W3C Recommendation

Speech Synthesis Markup Language Is a
W3C Recommendation 09/08/2004 11:00 AM
2004-09-08: The World Wide Web Consortium today released the Speech Synthesis Markup Language (SSML) Version 1.0 as a W3C Recommendation. With the XML-based SSML language, content authors can generate synthetic speech on the Web, controlling pronunciation, volume, pitch and rate. "SSML builds on the work of the pioneers in speech synthesis to provide application developers with a powerful and flexible means to deliver a high quality mix of synthetic and pre-recorded speech as part of interactive voice response services," said Dave Raggett (W3C/Canon). Read the press release, testimonials and implementation report and visit the Voice Browser home page. (News archive)

Features: Eat Drink Feel Good Markup
Language

Features: Eat Drink Feel Good Markup
Language 03/14/2005 05:44 PM
Aaron Straup Cope describes the pros and cons of making his Eatdrinkfeelgood Markup Language more RDF compatible.

Speech Synthesis Markup Language Is a
W3C Candidate Recommendation

Speech Synthesis Markup Language Is a
W3C Candidate Recommendation 12/18/2003 06:05 PM
2003-12-18: W3C is pleased to announce the advancement of the Speech Synthesis Markup Language Version 1.0 to Candidate Recommendation. Comments are welcome through 18 February 2004. With this XML-based language, content authors can generate synthetic speech on the Web, controlling pronunciation, volume, pitch, and rate. Read about the Voice Browser Activity. (News archive)

Speech Synthesis Markup Language Last
Call Published

Speech Synthesis Markup Language Last
Call Published 12/02/2002 07:24 PM
2 December 2002: The Voice Browser Working Group has released a Last Call Working Draft of the Speech Synthesis Markup Language Version 1.0. Comments are welcome through 15 January 2003. With this XML-based language, content authors can generate synthetic speech on the Web, controlling pronunciation, volume, pitch, and rate. Read about the Voice Browser Activity. (News archive)

Speech Synthesis Markup Language Is a
W3C Proposed Recommendation

Speech Synthesis Markup Language Is a
W3C Proposed Recommendation 07/15/2004 01:32 PM
2004-07-15: W3C is pleased to announce the advancement of the Speech Synthesis Markup Language (SSML) Version 1.0 to Proposed Recommendation. Comments are welcome through 27 August 2004. With the XML-based SSML language, content authors can generate synthetic speech on the Web, controlling pronunciation, volume, pitch and rate. Read about the Voice Browser Activity. (News archive)

Speech Synthesis Markup Language (SSML)
Is a W3C Candidate Recommendation

Speech Synthesis Markup Language (SSML)
Is a W3C Candidate Recommendation 12/19/2003 06:24 PM
XMLMania.com Dec 19 2003 4:20PM ET

Data Center Markup Language finds home
in OASIS

Data Center Markup Language finds home
in OASIS 08/30/2004 05:17 PM
A proposed standard to enable integration, automation and better management of data center components this week will begin development under the direction of a new standards body - the Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards.

Speech Synthesis Markup Language (SSML)
Version 1.0 Advances to W3C
Recommendation

Speech Synthesis Markup Language (SSML)
Version 1.0 Advances to W3C
Recommendation 09/11/2004 10:38 AM
XMLMania.com Sep 11 2004 1:48PM GMT

Magnetar Appoints Virtual Reality Markup
Language (VRML) Inventor to its Advisory
Board

Magnetar Appoints Virtual Reality Markup
Language (VRML) Inventor to its Advisory
Board 06/17/2004 11:39 AM
BC Technology Jun 17 2004 4:17PM GMT

JabberWookie 1.0.1

JabberWookie 1.0.1 12/14/2003 02:47 PM
A Java Jabber library.

JabberWookie 1.0

JabberWookie 1.0 12/09/2003 12:27 AM
A Java Jabber library.

Extensible Java MUD

Extensible Java MUD 07/08/2004 10:23 PM
CVS

Php Extensible eXplorer

Php Extensible eXplorer 08/22/2004 08:53 PM
It has started

DEX Extensible Operating System

DEX Extensible Operating System 04/12/2004 06:10 PM
Tiny C Compiler (tcc) 0.9.20 port to dex-os

Feedback about XAML wanted

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