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XAML Extended Attributes

XAML Extended Attributes 12/02/2003 01:55 AM

This is the one where Chris Sell's XAML example triggers two completely different trains of thought ...




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I know it's less "semantic" than your experimental attribute, but it might be useful (to style python code with different color than perl code for example)
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XAML is the new XML-based user interface programming language that will be part of the Windows Longhorn release in 2006.  Paul clearly liked XAML and thought that developers would be interested in developing with it (albeit much smaller/simpler in scale and richness) today.  This will be an interesting project to track.

 

 


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Let's see. There's this new language+API. It is, in theory platform independent. It's pretty high level. Below the high-level description, it runs on top of a virtual machine. It's verbose. Some people say it will never work.

Gotta be Swing, right?

How about XAML?

On Saturday Sam commented on a XAML example. He makes a number of good points. Which jump-started earlier XAML-related musings.

XAML will be Windows-only, so in that sense the comparison is stretched. But this is a matter of practice, in theory an XML-based language could be made portable (when there's a will there's a way). XAML was compared a lot to Mozilla's XUL, and rightly so, but I think there are some parallels between it and Swing as well.

One big difference that XAML will have, for sure, is that it will have a nice UI designer, something that Swing still lacks. On the other hand, I think that whatever code an automated designer generates will be horribly bloated. And who will be able to write XAML by hand? And: the problem of "bytecode protection" in Java comes back with XAML, but with a vengeance. How will the code be protected? Obfuscation of XML code? Really? How would it be validated then? And why hasn't anyone talked about this.

And another thing: Sun has shown in the past few years that they've taken a liking to countering Microsoft announcements with some of their own. ie., MS comes out with Web services, they come out with web services. MS does X, Sun does it too, but in Java. One wish: that Sun would ignore XAML and just continue improving Swing, and create a simple, good UI designer for Swing. Supposedly Project Rave will do this... but here's hoping there won't be any course corrections simply to show up Microsoft. Please, pretty please, Sun.

On a related note, Robert says this regarding XAML:

[...] you will see some business build two sites: one in HTML and one in XAML. Why? Because they'll be able to offer their customers experiences that are impossible to deliver in HTML.
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Of course not. Most companies will have one team, not two. Hence, logically, either people will use it or won't, without a lot of middle ground in between. That leaves two possibilities: 1) XAML will be niche and never really used a lot (think ActiveX, or, hey, even Java Applets!) or 2) XAML will kill HTML.

Which one do you think Microsoft is betting on?


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Apparently, one can embed small amounts of code in the markup.  Unquestionably controversial, but often handy.  This corresponds roughly to the role that JavaScript plays in HTML... or does it?

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