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Ask K5: Meeting locals when travelling

Ask K5: Meeting locals when travelling 09/22/2004 02:34 AM

While travelling I like to meet locals. In some countries this is easy, I look different and peole approach me. In other countries people are more reserved. What can I do in the latter case?




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pni från skrubu.net (ja och lokala MMS blog också), hej. Tog mig till Berghäll för en kväll i stil med blind date, för att se vad hur människorna som skriver bloggar ser ut som. Hmm... ja. Det är ju helt vanliga typer faktsikt. Nu skall jag ta mig en öl till.

Julius, kobaia.net: Ensimmäistä kertaa Kallion blogimiitissä, edellinen meni sairastaessa kotona. Olen jo nyt juonut yli rajojeni, onneksi palkankorotus on luvassa mahdollisimman pian. Paljon uusia ihmisiä, muutamia vanhempia tuttavuuksia. Eikä Kysyn vaan uskaltanut tulla paikalle. TIEDÄN KYLLÄ KUKA OLET!

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People have been pinging me about this, so I guess I should post something about it. I'm not going to Davos this year. I wasn't invited this year. Not sure exactly why... But I'm in pretty good company... Anyway, I posted some thoughts on the Forum over on Omidyar Network which I'll post here as well.

Joi Ito
This may sound like sour grapes, but I didn't get invited to Davos this year, but after going for 4 years, I was also planning on possibly not going. It's great fun meeting old friends, but I'm finding many of the smaller conferences more interesting these days. A number of people I know are going to the World Social Forum this year instead. Having said that, I'm sure something will happen this year that makes me wish that I was there. Please say hi to everyone for me.
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Joi, thanks for your insight. I'd be curious about your thoughts in terms of collective: has the WEF been a mechanism that enables actors to work more intelligently and in partnership across sectors? this is something i've been longing to understand better; there is a sense among participants at places like the World Social Forum that the WEF is exclusionary and serves only the interests of the multinationals. What seems most vital about the forum is the capacity to pool intelligence and coordinate action in a way that reduces global risk. is this happening?
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I think that a lot of the good things that happen at the forum on not intentional and not visible. It's bridge building across sectors. Although the forum has tried to be more and more inclusive, I think it has shifted away from its humble, somewhat academic roots to a conference where there is more participation by powerful people. Also, there is the official program, then there are special groups (like the Media Leaders group I spoke to last year) and then there are secret meetings. In many ways, it is more of a meeting place than a "movement" with something concrete to accomplish such as the WTO or G8, although I've never been to either.

I would disagree that it "only serves the interests of the multinationals" but it does have sponsors that allow it to exist and they obviously get special treatment and access. Having said that, the social entrepreneurs, for instance, include many legitimate social entrepreneurs who are doing a lot of great things that the forum enables in many ways.

So net-net, I would say the forum is a good thing, but I think your mileage may vary.

Finally, I would add... looking at the various lists of people who get invited and un-invited... the process, from my perspective, is close to random, athough there are clear biases. If you've never been invited, don't worry about it. Many many important and interesting people have never been invited. If you get invited and you've never been, give it a go, especially if you don't have to pay. If you go for a few years and get tired of it, you're not the only one.

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It's ugly.

It's fucked up.

Lord help us if it gets any worse. Verizon (despite their Cory Doctorow look alike campaign) are stone fascists. This is gonna catch up with them soon enough.

Ray Rischpater from a company called Rocket Mobile was there to fill us in on the gory details fo something called BREW. STAY AWAY! is all I can say.

Meanwhile Russel Beattie and other experienced mobile nerds grokked what they needed so that they could understand the motivations and issues surrounding BREW.

As bad as it is - Verizon alone has 40M BREW phone subscribers and that means money. There's lots of money to be made out there with BREW.

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Well hell. Number one google seach for the beastie boys new song... go to left... doof message there :) With the best and most drunk greetings, the Elf, eli Haltia, future city council candidate... fool... all must pity ;)

Hello Nasty. It's just as good as I thought...

RRRRööööö nothing have I taken. Suck my socks. Also BlueTooth? technology is now... resistance is futile! We are assimilated!

Alppimaa ei ole entisensä, tai siis ei ollenkaan. Haluan kiittää Jukka Lehtistä siitä, että ylipäätään muistin tulla tänne. Ja äitiä. Ja manageria. Ja editoria. Ai kiss yyyy oooll! Ai laaav jyyy!

*käkättää kippurassa* (KatjaW)

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