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A Weekend Trip Where I Don't Have to Explain My Job







A Weekend Trip Where I Don't Have to
Explain My Job

A Weekend Trip Where I Don't Have to
Explain My Job
09/11/2004 01:04 PM

I'm at O'Reilly Media's F oo Camp this week, a weekend tech-folk retreat at O'Reilly's Sebastopol offices. Lots of old friends from EFF, iBiblio, MusicBrainz, Mozilla, OSAF, BBC and more, plus plenty of new acquaintances. I'm a bit awed by the crowd and just doing a lot of listening and learning.




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Why Orkut Doesn't Work
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Before we could learn to pronounce it, it was shut down.

It’s not that the servers are melting with the rapid rise to ~3 million page views or 500th most popular site in a couple of days. It’s not a conspiracy of data collection or a learning curve.

orkut, which should really be named Oogle, demonstrated that a high performance explicit social networking site, well designed for digital immeadiate gratification (one local engineer personally even complained they had to click from map to profile to add a friend), supported by brand and with the right root can unleash latent demand. I would say this is reflective of the dearth of social capital in our society, but aside from such heady stuff, frictionless whuffie fun, huh? Latent demand for what is the question.

Internet researchers would die excruciating deaths in search of the last days of data. I would venture a guess that most of the digerati that was already pre-conditions by existing services, an incomprehensible demographic that grants hypergrowth to the best, grants the best feedback, but easily taketh away.

okurt doesn’t work because it lacks constraints. Nothing holds people back. Nobody knows what a friend means. No social capital on the line. Its so fun and easy, choices and incentives are irrational.

Normally this would raise questions. Some constraints make good social compact. Some constraints on openness curb pollution (spam, security). One of the better constraints is price because it lead to profit.

However, AdSense is relatively frictionless. It adds new constraints while adding value. Same could be said for other well targeted forms of content, like blog posts…[Many-to-Many]

Here's what I just posted as a comment on Many-to-Many...

Trying to lock everything into a black or white - "friend" or not - is the root of the problem (IMHO.)
 
That's why our PeopleAggregator FOAF based social network - has varying levels of degrees of explicit 'relationships'.
 
Starting from 'Close Friend' and then 'Friend' (both of which need email verification) we relax our defintion of the relationships by calling the next relationship you can have with someone - an 'Acquaintance', then a "Know by Reputation" and then "Know in Passing". which (to me are nice ways of lessening the quality and depth of the relationship, while still acknowledging it's existence.
 
We then have a relationship type - called 'Related to' (for family relationships) and finally - we end with a blank "I don't know you, but I want to know you' kind of acknowledgement of a desire to start a relationship. These 7 levels of relationship certainly aren't perfect, the best or even a full range of emotions (notice we stayed away from any sort fo negative relationships.) But we DID create a scale of sorts - from very close to not at all - that represents the REAL nature of relationships - which answers the premise of Ross' complaint.
 
I agree that social networks need to go beyond just offering someone to be "your friend" or not. Granualarities of relationships are the way to go. It's the only way explicit digital social networks will ever be successful.

orkut - help


orkut - help 02/10/2004 02:54 AM
http://www.orkut.com/join.html Any orkut members out there? Me need Invite.... ;) UPDATE: Got a ton of invites. Thanks :)

Orkut


Orkut 01/23/2004 04:12 PM

I awoke this morning to an explosion of invitatons to a new social network called Orkut.

Lots of things to say about it - first and foremost that it's a really clean, functional and exciting site!

Second - when I tried to join Orkut - I clicked on the 'Join Orkut' button and it told me - "Sorry you have to be invited into Orkut."

"Oh" I said.  "Then why is there a button saying "Join Orkut?"

That's pretty strange.

Now - the next thing is that Orkut is (apparently) created by Orkut Buyukkokten, who works at Google and just happens to be the guy who created the oriignal social network for Stanford - which is now part of Affinity Engines (who have a new CEO - BTW.)

Orkut has a pretty conspicuos message at the bottom saying "In affiliation with Google" - so if I was a betting man, I'd say Google decided NOT to buy Friendster - 'cause they got their employee Orkut - to roll their own internal system - which (just happens) to be called Orkut.

That said - let's just hope that Orkut will support FOAF - so we all can live happily together.

Orkut has Communities in it - so I created a few myself.

Here we go!

 


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Original Gundam
Complete

this Instapundit
post

Hypocrisy in the
extreme

Terry McAuliffe puts
the whole blame on
Karl Rove

Are You Better Off
Now Than You Were
Four Years Ago?

The Blame Game
SASAX
jfli
Citizens of
Venezuela Enjoy More
Secure Democracy
Than Citizens of
High-Tech Maryland

Computer-chip firm
sells

Welcome to the
Jungle!

How much is it
selling in India? At
least i get a rough
idea in Singapore

Kool,Do they do home
delivery??? I'm damn
stuck in chennai

Please let me know
where can i find
OSCAR DVD 9200 at
Hyderabad. pl. reply
immediately

Fidelity owns big
share of Google

Telecommunications
and computer
technology EXPO to
be held in Astana

SAS Enhances AML
Solution

what is grok?