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Dave Winer's Scripting News Webl0g
Dave Winer's Scripting News Webl0g
06/16/2004 03:59 AMdave winer's new literary voice: homeless person talking to himself ..
Via Scripting.com .. algunas personas .. Butthead ..
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"Dave Winer is against it"
"Dave Winer is against it"
06/05/2004 09:30 PMDave Winer
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06/14/2004 03:50 AMDave Winer
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"Dave Winer"
"Dave Winer"
06/18/2004 04:59 AMDave Winer has some problems with the
changes
Dave Winer has some problems with the
changes
05/12/2004 01:30 AMScriptingNewsDave's latest rants .. grouse once ..
complains
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Questions for Dave Winer...
Questions for Dave Winer...
04/09/2004 03:54 PMDear Mr
Winer,
- Will the API for radiocomments be public and clonable?
- If so, will the API for radiocomments be published before the
initial deployment of the radiocomments system?
- Will it be possible for Radio users to plug into a non-Userland
scripting system?
- Will the process for designing the radiocomments API be open or
will it be designed exclusively by Userland?
- Will Radio, Manila, or Frontier ever move to a non-proprietary
scripting language?
- Have you or will you file patents for the
weblogs.com technology?
I should add that I don't really have much of an opinion about the
whole Typekey thing at the
moment. Certainly we need something to deal with comment-spam,
certainly a centralised service will help with that and make things
easier, yes I'd rather have an open standard or set of protocols that
allow completely decentralised system if I could think of any way it
could be done (but offhand I can't).
Addendum: I have to confess that I'm not terribly interested
in this stuff - I was making a fairly light-hearted and facetious
point that really wasn't particularly well-expressed. I was clumsy in
a variety of places, and for that I apologise. All I was saying, I
guess, is that Dave's questions made it sound like Six Apart had a reputation for
proprietorial formats and patenting stuff and not opening up APIs -
and that I don't really see any evidence of that. And - realistically
- Dave is still associated with Userland and Userland is still a
competitor of SixApart - so I can't really see why they should feel
any particular obligation to answer those questions. (Particularly
given that Userland attempted to trademark RSS a few years ago - a move that could be seen
to be directly against the kind of openness that Dave's interrogating
Six Apart about.)
Anyway, I certainly don't feel qualified enough to comment in any
depth about the business practices of either Six Apart or Userland in
this context and these are not positions that I'd be prepared to
battle to my last breath to protect. So I'm going to back down
gracefully, only saying that I hope that it's clear why I had
the impression that I had, however inaccurate it may or may not have
been. I also apologise to anyone who was offended or feels
mischaracterised and I hope we can put this all behind us.
Dave Winer asks......
Dave Winer asks......
08/02/2004 01:29 PMDave Winer just posted a comment and asked.....
I don't get it -- why don't you use Radio?
What exactly was unreliable about it?
Maybe I can help figure out how to get it reliable.
Paolo was running his own RCS, right?
Anyway, I'm glad a Radio user finally had the confidence to tell
the other guys that they haven't even caught up with UserLand's
low-end product yet. Hold them to it. Let's get a real baseline
for competition here.
Marc's reply......
First of all Congrats on the Convention - totally
amazing to see how far blogging has come since you first floated the
idea to me - back in 1995.
Personal publishing sure has come a long way - but we're not done
yet. The idea of a client based personal server is something I can
credit you for being the first person to come up with that idea. The
issues surrounding that kind of product have been revealed because of
Radio - and we all you a debt of gratitude for that one - too!
So I actually felt that Radio represented a lot more than just a
'blogging tool'. I worked with Mikel Maron
on his MyRadio project and lauded Social DynamX's
FMRadioStation. We even planned to do a product called
Sweet Suite - which would also have complemented
Radio.
But dude - you folks fell behind. I guess that doesn't mean you
anymore - but being the largest shareholder does keep your teeth in
the game. You question certainly shows that you're still concerned
with the product's status and view - from the public POV.
So I can speak for many of us who left Radio in the past year - we
loved that product, it changed our lives - but as new features,
functionality and flexiblity came onto the market - Radio was
incresingly keeping us behind.
Take the comment you left me.
I got an email of it, asking me to approve it - via 6A's TypeKey
system. That rocks.
There are plenty of things that Radio still leads the market with -
and that was the core of my post. But there were also lots of reasons
to stop using Radio.
Stability was probably the biggest issue for me. After 5 or 6
total crashes, some of them my fauilt, others Radio instability - I
just gave up. Also the feeling that all development on Radio had
stopped - was a disappointment.
I always felt that you didn't charge enough for Radio, that if you
had kept EditThispage going as a service and morphed it like Pyra did
- the world would be a different place today.
And there was a whole "blogging support" play there - that never
was taken advantage of......
Yes - Paolo runs his own RCS - and he's your biggest supporter and
develoiper - BTW. And we're just getting started.
But for some reason - my mind flows to new kinds of
micro-content, namespaces and
decoupling schemas from the subscription
protocol.
Isn't there a way I can talk you into getting back involved in
moving these standards FORWARD?
Instead of worrying about the width of the threads on the pipe,
can't we focus on the structured shit that goes through the pipes?
As I said before - I REALLY think that we can setup open standards
for NEW kinds of micro-content. Here they are - and some of the
people who should be involve don a domain specific basis. But DUDE -
you know me and you and Sifry and Jon Udell should drive the overall
architecture of all this. We NEED you! Here are the new kind sof
micro-content I'm talking about:
- OpenEvents (Brian Dear, Peter
Caputa, Andy Biao)
- OpenMedia
(JD Lasica, Stewert Butterfield, Greg Elin, Brewster Kahle, Lucas
Gonze, Kevin Marks, Robert Kaye and many others.....)
- OpenReviews (Alf Eaton, Paul
Martino, Ross Rader)
- OpenPeople (all the FOAFnet.org folks, Tantek Celik, Sxip
(Dick Hardt), Joel De Gan)
- OpenRecipes (Meg Hourihan)
- OpenResume (Phil Wolff, Phil
Windley)
Now not all these folks have signed up yet - but DUUUUUUUUUUUDE -
we need you!
I'm proud of Dave Winer
I'm proud of Dave Winer
07/27/2004 07:48 PMI really don't care about the Democratic Convention (though I
did in 1968) and I'm not really into following what bloggers do
in general (unless it's about social networking or media as
well) - but did I tell you how proud I am of Dave Winer
and the other Convention Bloggers?
Go dudes and dudesses - go.


Dave Winer: "I make shitty
Dave Winer: "I make shitty
10/30/2003 09:22 PMDave Winer: "I make shitty software and I write shitty specs, but for
all that shittyness, they're amazingly popular and somewhat
useful."...
Dave Winer: Merging RSS with Atom?
Dave Winer: Merging RSS with Atom?
04/09/2004 04:03 PMDave Winer is requesting comments on his suggesti
on to merge RSS with Atom. This is obviously just a rough sketch
of how the merger would work and it needs a lot of filling
out, but at least it's a start. Let's hope that this time the
Hatfields and the McCoys the Atom folks and the RSS folks will
drop the childish bickering and personal attacks that have hindered
past discussions
FWIW, if this merger actually happens, I'll certainly support it in
FeedDemon.
Dave Winer has linked to a bunch of new
feeds
Dave Winer has linked to a bunch of new
feeds
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Dave Winer leaving RSS advisory board!
Dave Winer leaving RSS advisory board!
06/26/2004 06:21 AMI am but a geek who's web surfing now revolves around RSS. I have
only been producing this site a couple of years using RSS technology
and it has profoundly changed me.
First I have influenced a person I have worked with for years to
invest a significant amount of time/money integrating RSS into a
mainstream application that has been on the market for a long time. My
vision will have a significant impact on his company. When your
influence and indirectly driven by Dave's perseverance to develop RSS
into a mainstream standard helps change a companies vision that is a
powerful thing. (more on that later but for know you will have to
ponder what we are up to).
Second I started this website because RSS agreation of data, made
me envision something that we have not yet fully implemented. It will
be accomplished with RSS,
Look at the number of cottage industries that have sprung up and
revolve around RSS. Not very many people can say my vision resulted in
the creation of multiple companies doing breakthrough work, Dave Winer
can! He is on a very short list of techies that can make such a
claim.
Dave Winer was instrumental in making RSS what is today. The Atom
folks would not be doing what they are doing if Dave had not done the
legwork and revived RSS from the death grip surrounding the demise of
Netscape and they should not forget who forged the path.
RSS has given me hope that innovation is still alive and well, it
is now being driven mainstream through the voices of 100's of
thousands of webloggers and companies are incorporating the technology
every day fearing they are going to be left behind. It's like a tidal
wave it starts as a ripple and ends with overwhelming power.
I am confident though, that with Dave's leaving the RSS advisory
board that he has left it in good hands and the vision will carry
on. Will there be changes sure but I also foresee universal
incorporation at all levels of the IT infrastructure and into personal
media.
Thanks Dave I only wish I had been there from the beginning. [Scriptin
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A Small Victory - Dave Winer is Still a
Dick
A Small Victory - Dave Winer is Still a
Dick
06/16/2004 10:17 AMDave Winer Dumps 3000 Blogs He's Hosting With No Warning (I've Always
Thought Dave Winer Was An Obnoxious Moron. Obviously, I Was Right) ..
takes Dave to task .. Michele Catalano .. what can
happen
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Dave Winer nominated for WIRED Rave
Award
Dave Winer nominated for WIRED Rave
Award
02/17/2004 07:51 AMCongrats to Dave Winer for
his WIRED Rave
Award nomination in the Software Designer category (for RSS, of
course).
"Dave Winer takes a shot at the Clark
and Dean campaigns"
"Dave Winer takes a shot at the Clark
and Dean campaigns"
12/25/2003 08:59 PM<a
href="http://scriptingnews.userland.com/
2003/06/29#When:6:21:27AM">Dave
Winer</a>: "I make
<a
href="http://scriptingnews.userland.com/
2003/06/29#When:6:21:27AM">Dave
Winer</a>: "I make
10/30/2003 08:17 PM<a
href="http://scriptingnews.userland.com/2003/06/29#When:6:21:27AM">
Dave Winer</a>: "I make shitty software and I write shitty
specs, but for all that shittyness, they're amazingly popular and
somewhat useful."...
Wham bam. Dave Winer shuts down hosting
at webl0gs.com. No warning. 'And no
whining', he says
Wham bam. Dave Winer shuts down hosting
at webl0gs.com. No warning. 'And no
whining', he says
06/18/2004 03:18 AM13
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glassdog: "Dave Winer: A
Diagnosis"
glassdog: "Dave Winer: A
Diagnosis"
06/27/2004 05:58 PMLance Arthur diagnoses Dave Winer as a
sociopath
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MUG News: Apple's Dave Marra to speak at
DAPI
MUG News: Apple's Dave Marra to speak at
DAPI
04/16/2004 04:59 AMApple Senior Systems Engineer Dave Marra will be the guest speaker for
the April 19, 2004 meeting of Danville Apple Pi (DAPI) Macintosh User
Group located in Danville, PA...
Not Scripting News
Not Scripting News
02/15/2003 06:36 PMWhen's the last time that the content on Scripting News had anything
to do wtih scripting? Yeah, once in a while you'll read about XML-RPC
or something related, but that's maybe 10% of the time. Is it a case
of...
"Scripting News"
"Scripting News"
02/17/2004 08:53 AMScripting News
Scripting News
03/13/2003 04:49 PMmakes his move to Cambridge .. drive cross-country .. Dave Winer .. 3
days .. in Kansas .. surfaces
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Scripting News: 1/23/2004
Scripting News: 1/23/2004
01/23/2004 02:22 PMthe story behind Dean's post-Iowa exuberance .. Dave Winer Explains
The Dean Yell .. backstory on the Dean Scream .. Don't miss
them
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Scripting News: 3/29/2005
Scripting News: 3/29/2005
03/31/2005 11:08 PMDave Winer is breaking with the EFF .. Source: Scripting News .. Right
to Copyright .. contra la
EFF
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Scripting News: 12/16/2003
Scripting News: 12/16/2003
12/17/2003 03:46 PMScripting News: 3/30/2005
Scripting News: 3/30/2005
03/31/2005 06:59 AMabuse of someone else's content .. Scripting News: 3/30/2005 .. da un
ejemplo .. Test cases
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Scripting News: 1/29/2005
Scripting News: 1/29/2005
02/01/2005 09:11 PMfeeling guilty about not using categories .. Dave Winer's post on
categories .. captures .. writes ..
Winer
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Scripting News brunch
Scripting News brunch
02/07/2005 02:06 AM
It was a very nice meetup, one
of the best ever.
I attribute the success to six factors:
1. Manageable group size, exactly 10 people were there.
2. Private room, easy to hear everyone, even if they were
sitting at the other end of the table.
3. During daylight hours, everyone was awake.
4. Buffet style eating, means not too many interruptions from
wait staff.
5. Very reasonable price and great food.
6. Great people!!!
Scripting News: 6/25/2004
Scripting News: 6/25/2004
06/26/2004 10:55 AMDave Winer announces that he is leaving the RSS Advisory Board ..
Scripting News
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Scripting News: 6/1/2004
Scripting News: 6/1/2004
06/02/2004 06:54 AMDave Winer doesn't like this idea ..
almost
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Scripting News: 4/11/2005
Scripting News: 4/11/2005
04/12/2005 05:55 AMSource: Scripting News .. Tiger Woods' chip .. Dave
Winer
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Why it's good there are no ads on
Scripting News
Why it's good there are no ads on
Scripting News
03/23/2005 08:15 AM
Last night I had a
brief phone talk with Steve
Gillmor. I told him I had finally figured out why it's good that
there are no ads on Scripting News, and then spaced out on saying why
(our conversations are often like this, lots of ideas back and forth,
we never quite finish most).
So I thought I would explain here.
First, consider yesterday's edition. Among the
top items are three that are clearly anti-Republican. Now if you
support the Republicans, no matter how much they abuse your trust
(heh, sorry bout that), and I was running ads, you might think that,
by reading this blog, you were helping finance someone who you
disagree with politically. I wouldn't have much chance of talking to
Republicans.
However, because I'm not running ads, and have no reason, other
than wanting to influence more people, to seek more readers, you can
relax and have fun, maybe mutter to yourself when you see me
criticizing the President and the Speaker and Majority Leader, people
you admire and respect, people who should of course have their own
blogs, btw.
That's not to say that blogs-with-ads are necessarily bad, but
ads on Scripting News are not for me. As I said in yesterday's podca
st, I'd happily pay money to get some ideas heard more, so
for me, it's consistent to run Scripting News ad-free.
Scripting News: 5/17/2004
Scripting News: 5/17/2004
05/17/2004 07:32 PMthe Frontier kernel is going to be open sourced .. Scripting News:
5/17/2004 .. As Good A Time As
Any
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Scripting News: 9/19/2004
Scripting News: 9/19/2004
09/20/2004 07:07 PMdefine moblogging for us .. definire il termine ..
Winer
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Scripting News: 5/14/2004
Scripting News: 5/14/2004
05/15/2004 02:52 AMDave Winer ..
accuses
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Does Rumsfeld read Scripting News?
Does Rumsfeld read Scripting News?
05/13/2004 05:12 AM
Yesterda
y: "Bush gets a one-way ticket to Falluja, so he can personally
clean up the mess he created. He can take his great Defense Secretary
with him. "
Today<
/a>: "Embattled US defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld has arrived in
Baghdad on a surprise visit."
"It's even worse than it appears."
Scripting Java with the Bean Scripting
Framework
Scripting Java with the Bean Scripting
Framework
04/06/2005 02:25 AMZDNet Apr 6 2005 6:33AM GMT
DAVE 5.0.1
DAVE 5.0.1
09/15/2004 11:54 PMEnables Macintosh users to participate in Microsoft networks with both
file and print sharing services.
Get Well Dave!
Get Well Dave!
06/17/2002 07:56 AMDave Winer is half geek, half journalist and a man with a big heart.
He hosts this web site for free, and is in hospital till next weekend.
So Dave, keep healin' and keep on diggin'.

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