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But it's not torture?

But it's not torture? 06/23/2004 04:53 AM

From the Washington Post report on the torture memos released today: On Oct. 11, 2002, for example, the commanding general at the Guantanamo Bay detention center, Maj. Gen. Michael Dunlavey, asked his commander to approve the use of death threats against detainees and their families, wrapping a detainee in wet towels to "induce the misperception of suffocation," stress positions, exposing them to cold weather and water, and using dogs. These techniques had been reviewed and deemed legal under the Geneva Conventions by Dunlavey's legal adviser, Lt. Col. Diane Beaver, who wrote that they would be permissible "so long as there is an important governmental objective" and the tactics are not used "for the purpose of causing harm or with the intent to cause prolonged" mental or physical suffering. Maj. Gen. Michael Dunlavey and Lt. Col. Diane Beaver should have been involuntarily retired on October 12, 2002. Kudos to Gen. James T. Hill for not going along with the worst of these abuses. Still, is it any wonder why the whole world is suspicious of what is happening at the prison in Guantanamo?...




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Regarding the Torture of Others 05/25/2004 08:50 PM
If you haven't already: read Susan Sontag's piece on the images from Abu Ghraib, published in this past Sunday's New York Times Magazine.
There is more and more recording of what people do, by themselves. At least or especially in America, Andy Warhol's ideal of filming real events in real time -- life isn't edited, why should its record be edited? -- has become a norm for countless Webcasts, in which people record their day, each in his or her own reality show. Here I am -- waking and yawning and stretching, brushing my teeth, making breakfast, getting the kids off to school. People record all aspects of their lives, store them in computer files and send the files around. Family life goes with the recording of family life -- even when, or especially when, the family is in the throes of crisis and disgrace. Surely the dedicated, incessant home-videoing of one another, in conversation and monologue, over many years was the most astonishing material in ''Capturing the Friedmans,'' the recent documentary by Andrew Jarecki about a Long Island family embroiled in pedophilia charges.

An erotic life is, for more and more people, that which can be captured in digital photographs and on video. And perhaps the torture is more attractive, as something to record, when it has a sexual component. It is surely revealing, as more Abu Ghraib photographs enter public view, that torture photographs are interleaved with pornographic images of American soldiers having sex with one another. In fact, most of the torture photographs have a sexual theme, as in those showing the coercing of prisoners to perform, or simulate, sexual acts among themselves. One exception, already canonical, is the photograph of the man made to stand on a box, hooded and sprouting wires, reportedly told he would be electrocuted if he fell off. Yet pictures of prisoners bound in painful positions, or made to stand with outstretched arms, are infrequent. That they count as torture cannot be doubted. You have only to look at the terror on the victim's face, although such ''stress'' fell within the Pentagon's limits of the acceptable. But most of the pictures seem part of a larger confluence of torture and pornography: a young woman leading a naked man around on a leash is classic dominatrix imagery. And you wonder how much of the sexual tortures inflicted on the inmates of Abu Ghraib was inspired by the vast repertory of pornographic imagery available on the Internet -- and which ordinary people, by sending out Webcasts of themselves, try to emulate.

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Torture Inc. 04/04/2005 11:14 PM
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What is torture?


What is torture? 05/05/2004 11:24 AM
I was driving east down Sunset Boulevard with a friend last night. We stopped to let some AMWs (actress-model-whatevers) cross the street from SkyBar toward Chateau Marmont, and my friend turned to me and said, "What exactly is torture? How do you define it? Does hooking up fake electrodes to a prisoner's hands, and telling them they're real -- is that torture?" When the be-botoxed cosmetic engineering specimens reached the other curb, we drove on. "Yes," I replied, but I couldn't provide the more thorough answer he wanted.

So, coincidentally, BoingBoing reader Tony sends in this timely reminder that real definitions of torture do exist. Here is one of them -- from the UN Convention Against Torture, which the US government ratified along with 70 other countries. Tony says, "Every time I turn on the TV or radio, the media and the government itself is talking about US military 'abuses.' Let's be clear: what's happening at Abu Ghraib is not 'abuse' but 'torture.'"

If I were thinking clearly last night, I'd have told my friend, "It's torture when they do it. It's abuse when our guys do it."
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torture is not an american value


torture is not an american value 02/01/2005 09:53 PM

I am joining a growing list of Americans who oppose the confirmation, of Alberto Gonzales for Attorney General.

As the prime legal architect for the policy of torture adopted by the Bush Administration, Gonzales's advice led directly to the abandonment of longstanding federal laws, the Geneva Conventions, and the United States Constitution itself. Our country, in following Gonzales's legal opinions, has forsaken its commitment to human rights and the rule of law and shamed itself before the world with our conduct at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib. The United States, a nation founded on respect for law and human rights, should not have as its Attorney General the architect of the law's undoing.

In January 2002, Gonzales advised the President that the United States Constitution does not apply to his actions as Commander in Chief, and thus the President could declare the Geneva Conventions inoperative. Gonzales's endorsement of the August 2002 Bybee/Yoo Memorandum approved a definition of torture so vague and evasive as to declare it nonexistent. Most shockingly, he has embraced the unacceptable view that the President has the power to ignore the Constitution, laws duly enacted by Congress and International treaties duly ratified by the United States. He has called the Geneva Conventions "quaint."

[. . .]

With this nomination, we have arrived at a crossroads as a nation. Now is the time for all citizens of conscience to stand up and take responsibility for what the world saw, and, truly, much that we have not seen, at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere. We oppose the confirmation of Alberto Gonzales as Attorney General of the United States, and we urge the Senate to reject him.

While it is vital that we defeat our enemies, we must not become them in the process. As a nation, we must stand united against Albert Gonzales and everything he represents. Torture is not an American value.


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connects some dots .. brilliant essay .. Anne Applebaum .. Quote:

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  • Denials from the Pentagon and White House aside, no one can plausibly suggest anymore that senior people in the Bush administration and military did not know about what was going on. This behavior was too widespread, and too contrary to the fundamental values this nation is supposed to support, for anyone to believe otherwise. There will be no accountability, of course. And too many Americans are comfortable with the idea of torturing them, even when the result is even more loathing of the U.S. and a corrosion of everything we're supposed to stand for as a nation. Yesterday I sat in a room with an Army officer who's trying to bring reconstruction assistance to Iraq, a man with genuinely good aims. Everything he does will be undermined by the blatant abuses of human rights portrayed in these military documents. It's not good enough to say that we should do these things because we're fighting, in some cases, an enemy who'll do terrible things. America is supposed to be better than this.

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    [T]hough for many instances I would prefer less painful forms of execution, I am especially pleased that the killing and, yes, I am happy to call it a killing, a perfectly proper term for a perfectly proper act was a slow throttling, and was preceded by a flogging. The one thing that troubles me (besides the fact that the murderer could only be killed once) is that the accomplice was sentenced to only 15 years in prison, but perhaps there's a good explanation.

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    Frank conversation about torture 05/10/2004 08:54 AM
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    Was Abuse and Torture Our Policy?


    Was Abuse and Torture Our Policy? 05/16/2004 10:36 AM

  • Seymour Hersh (New Yorker): The Gray Zone. The roots of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal lie not in the criminal inclinations of a few Army reservists but in a decision, approved las year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, to expand a highly secret operation, which had been focussed on the hunt for Al Qaeda, t the interrogation of prisoners in Iraq. Rumsfeld’s decision embittered the American intelligence community, damaged the effectiveness of élite combat units, and hurt America’s prospects in the war on terror.
  • See also: Tainted by Torture, Phillip Carter's explanation of why "evidence obtained through coercion is undermining the legal war on terrorism."

    To Vary Your Gym Torture, Accessorize


    To Vary Your Gym Torture, Accessorize 01/08/2004 08:28 PM
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    Government silence in torture row


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    The New Yorker on the torture at Abu
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    The New Yorker on the torture at Abu
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    In case anyone missed this, there is a detailed article on the torture at Abu Ghraib in The New Yorker. Unlike the sniper rumor, this one is pretty much documented fact. I realize that this is obviously not standard behavior, but it is not a single wacko, but a group of soldiers. It's really quite appalling. How can something like this happen? What is the mood like among American soldiers in Iraq? Is there a general hatred or is it really isolated behavior? I can't imagine an occupying force being very successful without some basic respect for the local citizens.

    I remember hearing that the occupying forces in post-war Japan were selected from soldiers who had not served in combat against the Japanese. Most of the stories you hear about the soldiers occupying Japan are good stories. I suppose it's easier to be nice when there is no resistance, but still... (My sister has a nice post about the story of our family's first interaction with the US occupation of Japan.)

    I also heard from a Spanish friend of mine that there is very little if no hatred towards Muslims after the 3/11 attack in Madrid. People realize that it is a splinter group and are not blaming the Muslims.

    I don't want to over-generalize, but trying to link Al Qaeda to Iraq and some of the hate crimes against Muslims in the US really highlights the lack of racial sympathy or understanding on the US's part. I think the US really needs to figure out how to deal with this racial intolerance and ignorance if it's going to try do any kind of nation building.

    Before someone else says it, I think racism in Japan is also very bad, but we're not toppling regimes and trying to rebuild them. I wouldn't trust Japan with that either.


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    Torture Policy (washingtonpost.com) 06/18/2004 01:55 AM
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