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Orkut members launch Orkut Paranoia
community about Orkut TOS on Orkut
Orkut members launch Orkut Paranoia
community about Orkut TOS on Orkut
02/10/2004 10:42 PMGeez. My head is spinning. Anyway, BoingBoing reader Adam fields
points us to a new "Orkut community" (one of many online affinity
groups within the social networking service), called "
Orkut
Paranoia" (link requires free membership). Adam says, "This
formed out of some interesting discussion we've had about what's going
on... summarized in this blog post:"
1) Orkut claims irrevocable unlimited license rights to everything you
post. Most people don't understand what that means. One example of
this is that many of my friends have posted pictures that I've taken.
This is probably not a problem, generally, but they've granted Orkut a
license to use them without consulting me, and created a legal tangle
should I have a problem with that, forcing me to have to perform a
legal struggle with Orkut, because of their unwitting actions. I think
this is rude behavior on the part of Orkut, but their prerogative to
demand.
2) Orkut may share personal information with Google in an unrestricted
way. Google is unwilling (so far) to discuss what use they may make of
that information.
3) Google's privacy policy possibly has some holes in it with regards
to data collected by way of means other than use of the google.com
website.
I suspect that Orkut is a way for Google to gather personal
information about their clientele for marketing purposes, and to try
to form a more solid relationship beyond "I just use Google for search
because it's convenient". This is not terribly nefarious, but the kind
of data that could be collected to do so has wide potential for abuse,
and people should be aware that that's what's going on. Some may not
care, but many people I know are signing up without reading or
understanding the implications of the above three points.
Link
Company Claims Orkut Stole Orkut Code
Company Claims Orkut Stole Orkut Code
06/30/2004 07:19 PMIt's not like it's particularly difficult to write a social networking
systems. These days, at the rate new ones are coming out, it
practically seems like a typical first year CS student's project.
Still, a company named Affinity Engines that builds social networking
products for universities (that just so happens to have been founded
by Orkut Buyukkokten - the creator of orkut.com) is now
suing
Google for stealing their code. From the article, it sounds like
they have a pretty solid claim. First, it's obvious that Orkut had
access to the code. He even continued to work on it while he was at
Google. According to the lawsuit he promised repeatedly that he
wasn't going to work on a similar app for Google, but then did so
anyway. The real damaging point, however, is that Affinity Engines
claims they've found nine identical bugs in Orkut that are also in
their own system -- which certainly makes it quite likely the basic
code is the same.
Orkut
02/10/2004 02:53 AMWell, this thing seems to be taking off. Nat threw in the first
invite, so I signed up, and another half-dozen or so folks have fired
off invites. This is another one of those networking site things, and
I've decided that while I'll go accept invites from anyone I know (I
really need to get a picture up--I'd throw the rainbow parrot pic I
use for iChat, but the TOS seem to indicate that'd be ill-advised) I
don't think I'm going to go to much trouble to actively go search
people out. These things are always interesting to look at,...
Will Salon Ever Die?
Will Salon Ever Die?
03/17/2005 03:13 AMSalon.com
: How many lives does Salon have? I just noticed that two years
ago today, we were posting about how they couldn't pay their rent and
were almost gone.
Well, Salon is almost bankrupt. We've heard this before —
Salon is always rumored to be circling the drain, ready to go under in
a blaze of glory. Of course, this time they can't pay their rent, so I
think it's serious.
Yet, they're still around.
"discusses"
"discusses"
06/20/2004 03:52 AMSalon article
Salon article
07/14/2004 10:23 AMSalon
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Spolsky in Salon
Spolsky in Salon
12/19/2004 03:24 PMI've been an admirer of Joel Spolsky's
writing on software since I
started reading it several years ago. Last month when I was in New
York I sat down with Joel and had a good long talk about software
development, partly for the purpose of my book research and partly
because I knew he'd be entertaining and thoughtful. Today's Salon
features a
write-up of the interview, pegged in part to the publication of a
book collection of Spolsky's essays.
Technorati Salon
Technorati Salon
05/19/2004 05:45 PM
I have a late afternoon meeting in the City today so I am thinking
about stopping
by at Technorat
i Developer's
Salon afterward for pizza, beer, conversation, and adventure (I
never been to
that part of the town -- Do I need to bring my urban jungle knife,
David?).
Maybe I'll see you there.
Salon op-ed on DNC bl0ggers
Salon op-ed on DNC bl0ggers
07/29/2004 05:05 AMDanah boyd has adapted her rant about the NYT's dismissal of the DNC
bloggers as "Web diarists" into an op-ed for Salon.
Blogging will not replace traditional journalism, but it presents a
threat to the normative press culture and an opportunity for radical
reporting. Bloggers do place the issue of professionalism under
attack, not by being unprofessional, but by exposing the ways in which
the media operates. As blogging reaches the masses, people are
introduced to information that was not reported because it did not
suit the party line. Bloggers will happily document the power games
that they witness in the press room and will expose future Jayson
Blairs. Bloggers also capture information that the mainstream press
does not yet realize is valuable, which means that ambitious and
digitally minded journalists are constantly scanning the blogs for
information. More and more, journalists are thanking bloggers for new
slants. The competition between journalists and bloggers for readers'
attention results in more diverse and compelling coverage.
Reg Req'd LinkSalon TV awards
Salon TV awards
09/17/2004 08:34 AMYour picks -- and ours -- for who should take home Emmy.
Other: Salon Mac Feature
Other: Salon Mac Feature
02/01/2005 08:48 PM
Will the Mini give the Mac a second chance against Windows?
Salon in Libraries?
Salon in Libraries?
03/19/2003 10:45 PMLast year I said I thought Salon should look into licensing
content to libraries, and now they're finally doing something about
it. Adrienne Crew, their Content Licensing Manager, sent me the
following:
"Thought you'd like to know that Salon's Premium Institutional
Subscription program for libraries is finally up and running....
Currently we are offering a one year subscription in the $300-400
range and feeds all access to the articles on the site via an IP
authentication system or a single password."
More details as I get them.
Stepheon's Confusion on Salon
Stepheon's Confusion on Salon
04/21/2004 03:23 AMMy copy of Neal Stephenson's
Confusion, the new, enormous sequel to
Quicksilver, arrived in the mail yesterday before I left for
Turin, and it's in my suitcase, waiting for me. Quicksilver was a
remarkable book, a triumphant combination of Stephenson's
trivia-obsessed, research-intensive approach to the precursors of the
information age (viz.
Snow Crash's Nam-Shub of Enki and
Cryptonomicon's Bletchley Park sequences) and his gift for
sprawling, braided stoorylines that combine slapstick action scenes
with intense, emotional passages.
Salon's running a double feature on Stephenson today: a long interview with Neal, and a review by Andrew Leonard. Both are highly recommended -- I
can't wait to sink my teeth into this book.
Science was new and they didn't know how to do it yet. Science was and
is a somewhat contentious thing. Someone's got a theory and they
promulgate that theory and then something else comes along and alters,
improves on or even flatly contradicts it. Now that we've got 350
years of perspective on this, scientists understand that this is how
it's done and there's a mechanism in place for how to do it. It's
refereed journals and it's become institutionalized. They didn't have
that perspective on it. They couldn't stand back and say, Well, my
theory may get contradicted here and there, but this guy who's
contradicting it will get contradicted in turn. They didn't have that
expectation. They didn't have journals. The first two journals were
the Journale de Savants, which was about 1665, and the Proceedings of
the Royal Society, which was right about the same time. Leibniz had to
found his own journal in order to publish his own work. They were kind
of banging around in the dark trying to figure out how to do this.
Hooke, for example, when he figured out how arches work, published it
as an anagram. He condensed the idea into this pithy statement: "The
ideal form of an arch is the form of a chain hanging, flipped upside
down." Then he scrambled the letters to make an anagram and published
it. That way, he wasn't giving away the secret, but if somebody came
along a few years later and claimed that they'd invented it, he could
just unscramble what he'd published. He was establishing precedence.
Hooke squabbled with [Christiaan] Huygens over a bunch of
clock-related inventions. This kind of thing was just rife. It came to
a head in a grotesque way in the priority dispute over [who invented]
the calculus. That was so embarrassing to the whole institution of
science and people were so nauseated by it that it taught everyone a
lesson. After that, no one would dream of doing what Newton did, which
was to invent something really important and then sit on it for 30
years.
Salon.com Technology | The new
bl0gocracy
Salon.com Technology | The new
bl0gocracy
07/29/2004 03:30 PM¨„§ˆ©§Œ› §„ˆ† .. op-ed piece for Salon .. Danah
Boyd
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Salon.com - Daou Report
06/24/2005 06:00 PMFrom the Daou Report: ..
foul
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as Salon reports today
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danah in Salon: The new bl0gocracy
danah in Salon: The new bl0gocracy
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Salon: Mozilla rising
Salon: Mozilla rising
09/11/2002 06:43 PMBut the best part about Mozilla is that it is not just a browser.
Scores of developers are now talking about using Mozilla as a
"platform" -- that is, using Mozilla's underlying code to build
non-browser applications, like calendar programs and e-mail programs
and even Linux desktops. You don't need to download Mozilla to use
these apps, as some are distributed with their own stripped-down
version of Mozilla's engine -- which, if you think about it, is
exactly the kind of thing Microsoft was trying to prevent when it
launched its war against Netscape. It didn't want Netscape around,
because Netscape was becoming a platform. So wouldn't it be rich if,
in the end, Microsoft succeeds in killing Netscape and winning the
browser war but still, somehow, doesn't eliminate the platform threat?
If Netscape dies but the dragon that it spawned burns Redmond?
"btn" I don't know why so many people in the open source world have an
inferiority complex and are always comparing themselves to Microsoft,
or planning Microsoft's downfall, or are simply jealous. When I
release open source software, I'm just pleased if a hundred or a
thousand people are using it. And if Microsoft ever uses my code, hey
that would be delightful!
"zeldman.cramps"
Salon.com Technology | Must-download TV
Salon.com Technology | Must-download TV
08/12/2004 02:35 AMMust-Download
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"Orkut"
"Orkut"
01/23/2004 05:24 PMorkut - help
orkut - help
02/10/2004 02:54 AMhttp://www.orkut.com/join.html
Any orkut members out there? Me need Invite.... ;)
UPDATE: Got a ton of invites. Thanks :)
Orkut the right way to go?
Orkut the right way to go?
01/26/2004 03:30 AMWhy Orkut Doesn't Work (Ross Mayfield). 
January 25, 2004
Why Orkut Doesn't Work
- Posted by Ross
Mayfield at 11:25 PM
Before we could learn to pronounce it, it was shut down.
It’s not that the servers are melting with the rapid rise to
~3
million page views or 500th most popular site in a couple of days. It’s
not a conspiracy of data collection or a learning curve.
orkut, which should really be named Oogle,
demonstrated that a high performance explicit social networking site,
well designed for digital immeadiate gratification (one local
engineer personally even complained they had to click from map to
profile to add a friend), supported by brand and with the right root
can unleash latent demand. I would say this is reflective of the
dearth of social capital in our society, but aside from such heady
stuff, frictionless whuffie fun, huh? Latent demand for what is the
question.
Internet researchers would die excruciating deaths in search of the
last days of data. I would venture a guess that most of the digerati
that was already pre-conditions by existing services, an
incomprehensible demographic that grants hypergrowth to the best,
grants the best feedback, but easily taketh away.
okurt doesn’t work because it lacks constraints. Nothing holds
people back. Nobody knows what a friend means. No social capital on
the line. Its so fun and easy, choices and incentives are
irrational.
Normally this would raise questions. Some constraints make good
social compact. Some constraints on openness curb pollution (spam,
security). One of the better constraints is price because it lead to
profit.
However, AdSense is relatively frictionless. It adds new
constraints while adding value. Same could be said for other well
targeted forms of content, like blog posts…[Many-to-Many]
Here's what I just posted as a comment on Many-to-Many...
Trying to lock everything into a black or white -
"friend" or not - is the root of the problem (IMHO.)
That's why our
PeopleAggregator FOAF based
social network - has varying levels of degrees of explicit
'relationships'.
Starting from 'Close Friend' and then
'Friend' (both of which need email verification) we relax our
defintion of the relationships by calling the next relationship you
can have with someone - an 'Acquaintance', then a "Know by
Reputation" and then "Know in Passing". which (to me are
nice ways of lessening the quality and depth of the relationship,
while still acknowledging it's existence.
We then have a relationship type - called 'Related
to' (for family relationships) and finally - we end with a blank
"I don't know you, but I want to know you' kind of
acknowledgement of a desire to start a relationship. These 7 levels of
relationship certainly aren't perfect, the best or even a full range
of emotions (notice we stayed away from any sort fo negative
relationships.) But we DID create a scale of sorts - from very close
to not at all - that represents the REAL nature of relationships -
which answers the premise of Ross' complaint.
I agree that social networks need to go beyond just
offering someone to be "your friend" or not. Granualarities of
relationships are the way to go. It's the only way explicit digital
social networks will ever be successful.
Orkut
Orkut
01/23/2004 04:12 PM
I
awoke this morning to an explosion of invitatons to a new social
network called Orkut.
Lots of things to say about it - first and foremost that it's a
really clean, functional and exciting site!
Second - when I tried to join Orkut - I clicked on the 'Join Orkut'
button and it told me - "Sorry you have to be invited into Orkut."
"Oh" I said. "Then why is there a button saying "Join
Orkut?"
That's pretty strange.
Now - the next thing is that Orkut is (apparently) created by Orkut Buyukkokten,
who works at Google and just happens to be the guy who created the
oriignal social network for Stanford - which is now part of Affinity Engines (who have a
new CEO - BTW.)
Orkut has a pretty conspicuos message at the bottom saying
"In affiliation with Google" - so if I was a betting
man, I'd say Google decided NOT to buy Friendster - 'cause they got
their employee Orkut - to roll their own internal system - which (just
happens) to be called Orkut.
That said - let's just hope that Orkut will support FOAF - so we
all can live happily together.
Orkut has Communities in it - so I created a few myself.
Here we go!
R.I.P. Orkut
R.I.P. Orkut
06/10/2004 05:46 PM
Orkut is now a spam-filled waste and inappropriate for professional
use. What
a waste of a good opportunity. I am now starting to
appreciate LinkedIn's more
conservative approach.
orkut
orkut
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IBM discusses its Workplace vision
IBM discusses its Workplace vision
05/24/2004 11:10 AMIBM has broadened its Workplace architecture for component-based
application delivery and placed it at the center of its managed apps
vision. Senior Writer Cathleen Moore recently sat down with Ken
Bisconti, vice president of Workplace products in the Lotus Software
group, to talk about the recent launch of IBM's Workplace Client
Technology rich client platform.
The Salon Interview: Neal Stephenson
The Salon Interview: Neal Stephenson
04/21/2004 07:26 AMThe author of "Cryptonomicon" and the "Baroque Cycle" talks about the
brighter side of Puritanism, the feud between Newton and Leibniz, and
the literary world's grudge against science fiction.
Salon Interviews Neal Stephenson
Salon Interviews Neal Stephenson
04/21/2004 08:58 AMSalon rules, it is soooo official.
Salon rules, it is soooo official.
04/09/2004 03:55 PMHappy Happy Joy Joy. Just received via email: As a Salon Premium
Member at the $35 level, you may now select a 6-month subscription to
the New York Review of Books, the magazine the New York Times calls
"the country's...
"Repeating and Expanding Salon.com
Story"
"Repeating and Expanding Salon.com
Story"
05/17/2004 10:44 PMJoseph Wilson interviewed at Salon.
Joseph Wilson interviewed at Salon.
05/03/2004 02:38 AM
Joseph Wilson interviewed at Salon. They've also tried to
portray you, and all the other whistle-blowers who have spoken out
against the administration, as partisan democrats. Do you think that
has been an effective technique?
It hasn't worked with me. People are touched by this story because it
gives a human face to a whole host of lies and deceptions that only
now are becoming apparent to the American public. Americans don't like
this attitude. Americans don't like to see their women taken out and
beaten up.
The Salon Interview: Daniel Ellsberg
The Salon Interview: Daniel Ellsberg
02/19/2004 06:48 AMLike John Kerry, he returned from the Vietnam War to become one of its
most famous opponents. Now the man who leaked the Pentagon Papers
blasts the Bush camp's "obscene" attack on Kerry's patriotism.
Salon.com Technology | The myth of
interference
Salon.com Technology | The myth of
interference
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Tao of Extreme Democracy Future Salon
Tao of Extreme Democracy Future Salon
09/15/2004 09:21 PMTomorrow night I'm speaking at the Tao of Extreme Democracy Future
Salon with Zack Rosen of CivicSpace (formerly DeanSpace, which
supports sites like Mitch Kapor supported Baobabs) and Tom Atlee,
author of the Tao of Democracy. We'll be talking Extreme...
Warning over 'hair salon stroke'
Warning over 'hair salon stroke'
04/24/2004 03:31 AMA widower who believes a visit to a hair salon caused his wife's
stroke calls for safeguards to be put in place.
My article on David Reed is in Salon
My article on David Reed is in Salon
03/13/2003 10:25 AM Salon today is running "The Myth of Interference," an article I wrote
about David Reed's idea that the federal policies intended to prevent
radio signals from interfering are based on bad science....
Johnny Investigates Bioethics for Salon
Johnny Investigates Bioethics for Salon
10/29/2003 12:10 AMWe stood there on the concrete steps of the U-Haul self-storage in
South San Francisco, johnny and I, watching the cars accelerate onto
101 South and waiting for a locksmith to come and drill the padlock
that stood between us and several boxes of Acts so we could get back
in our borrowed Isuzu Trooper and haul ass down that same 101 to the
O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference. To pass the time, and apropos
of nothing much, johnny told me the story of how his oldest daughter
went extravagantly, cinematically insane one day.
Salon.com Books The man who invented the
future
Salon.com Books The man who invented the
future
07/24/2004 06:11 PMinterview with Alan Moore ..
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The Salon Interview: Bill Clinton
The Salon Interview: Bill Clinton
06/25/2004 09:02 AMThe former president blasts the Bush-Cheney rush to war, explains why
Gore lost in 2000 and tells how Kerry can win in 2004.
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