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Syndication détente 05/28/2004 09:44 AM

Sam Ruby says: The key takeaway here is to beware of anybody who preaches one true format or one size fits all.  Each format has its strengths.  And none of them are going away any time soon. Meanwhile, you can...




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Détente 05/28/2004 05:10 AM
Brent Simmons: My job is to treat Atom and RSS as peers, and to do a great job supporting both formats. I do not prefer one over the other, and I go out of my way to stay far away from the fighting. (One of the beautiful parts of newsreaders is the Unsubscribe button.) ...

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Sam Ruby: Détente 05/29/2004 06:08 PM
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oh god not again: syndication and css 01/01/2004 05:42 AM
technical guidance .. Sam Ruby

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Syndication and CSS 12/31/2003 07:18 AM
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More on syndication 08/05/2004 11:16 PM

Previousl y someone asked about the word syndication and what it means in the blog world. Prompted by a question I received, here are some more thoughts on the use of “Syndicate this Site” and what it means to have and use an RSS feed.

Typically “syndicate this site” means that the site owner has an XML feed (RSS and ATOM are the popular formats) that you can use to read their content. While syndication in the offline world refers to the fact that you can purchase certain content (comics, old TV reruns) for use in your publication, bloggers don’t often think of it that way.

For a variety of reasons, the word syndicate is misused by bloggers. What a blogger means is that they offer a feed that can be used to read their site in a news reader or on a site like My Yahoo or Blo glines that aggregates feeds. They don’t typically mean that you can use their feed on your commercial site.

That said, if you contact some of these blogs, you may be able to get permission from them to use their material on your site with attribution. Some bloggers are open to this and some aren’t. The answer you get will depend greatly on what you intend to do with the feed, who the blogger is, and how nicely you ask.


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The word syndication 04/14/2004 09:11 AM
Jason Kottke thinks we should stop using the word "syndication" to describe  what we do with RSS/Atom feeds.  I disagree.  He's right that what's happening now online is different than the classic print syndication model.  But the concept of syndication has always been broader than that.  As I wrote several years ago in the Harvard Business Review (and before that in Release 1.0), it's a perfect way to describe the emerging business model of the Internet economy.

Syndication in Action


Syndication in Action 04/30/2004 09:08 AM
I wasn't going to say anything about the IPO filing by everyone's favorite search company, on the theory that anyone reading this blog has already seen plenty about the news.  But one tidbit caught my eye.

According to Tristan Lewis, Google's S-1 states that about 1/3 of its advertising revenue in the last quarter came from non-Google sites in its network.  In other words, to use the terminology of my Harvard Business Review article, Google is syndicating its targeted advertisements.  Amazon.com was previously my best example, but it was only generating something like 10% of revenues from partner sites that use its technology.  I expect the Google number to increase, since its AdSense program for other sites is still relatively new, and competitive pressures will limit Google's ability to do more straight search engine deals. 

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Syndication By The Numbers 04/21/2004 12:54 AM
I spent today at a conference, speaking and listening. The best listening was to a guy named Dave Morse, who helps run a big chunk of network behind a particularly thick firewall. He’s saving time and money big-time using syndication and he can prove it...

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Syndication with JavaScript 07/02/2004 09:40 PM

JavaScript Syndication: How to Easily Syndicate Your Web Content: Here's an extremely well-done article on using JavaScript includes to syndicate your content. Very in-depth with many code samples and diagrams.

If you are syndicating to websites that are not under your control, you don't know that the webmaster will have the expertise to implement a syndication strategy using XML. You might be syndicating to a small company that used FrontPage to make the website; they certainly can't set up a dynamic process to fetch an XML feed from your site, cache it, and integrate the data into their site.

I'm almost more impressed with the presentation of the article than with the content. We need more Web content like this.

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What is RSS/XML/Atom/Syndication? 05/19/2004 10:31 AM

The little orange buttons that are starting to litter the web have no doubt caused mass confusion. What are they good for? Why are they there? And why don't they work? While I and others are starting to look into sugg estions for developers to alleviate this design flaw, I thought I'd take a minute to talk about what this technology potentially means to you, the user. (If you already know what RSS stands for, this article won't tell you anything new, but feel free to reference when you need to explain syndication.)

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Five years ago today, Dave Winer wrote about syndication and aggregation. Dave, thanks for all you efforts to promote weblogs and syndication - you've helped open a lot of possibilities for a lot of people.


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Syndication city 06/21/2004 11:29 PM
I'm a late addition to a panel at the Supernova conference this Thursday, June 24: I'll be joining some very interesting people (Technorati's David Sifry; blogger, XML leader and now Sun engineer Tim Bray; and Paul Boutin of Wired and Slate). We're talking about syndication and RSS. The question the panel faces: "Is there more to syndication than reading 300 blogs at once?" What interesting, useful applications for RSS and RSS-like tools are out there or just around the corner?

I've got my own answer(s), but in the decentralized spirit of the conference, I'll open the floor here in comments, and present anything you folks suggest, too.

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Private Syndication 02/01/2005 09:44 PM
Over at the ZD BTL space, David Berlind writes good stuff on something I’ve been talking about for a long time, private syndication feeds. My favorite examples have been feeds from my bank account or credit card or stock portfolio, but David has another for people like EBay, who can no longer email their customers because everyone receiving such an email assumes it’s a phishing attempt (it usually is). David wonders if existing RSS-based systems can scale up for mass one-to-one usage; the answer is “yes, obviously”; post-and-poll (as in syndication) is mechanically simpler than store-and-forward (as in email), it’ll scale just fine. One detail: I think that for this kind of content-critical, all-business feed, Atom is a more attractive choice than any of the RSS flavors.

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Syndication is not publication. 12/03/2002 11:46 AM

Yeah, what Mark said. I don't only agree with him 100%, but I'd say you'd be crazy not to. This is somewhere close to what i said in my last post.

It should be obvious to any rational observer that this will go nowhere fast. A syndication format that requires valid semantic XHTML markup? Spare me. 9 out of 10 bloggers can’t even spell XHTML.

- Mark Pilgrim


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The case for syndication 10/28/2003 11:07 PM
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Another syndication approach? 12/08/2003 02:18 AM

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Freed from syndication 11/06/2003 11:06 AM
Ken MacLeod: Review data has permanence, it has linkability, it has searchability, it has reusability — why is it locked in a syndication feed for use pretty much only by syndication clients?

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Content Syndication with RSS 03/19/2003 10:24 PM

Through our arrangement with O'Reilly & Associates, we are pleased to bring you Chapter 2: Content Syndication Architecture, from the new book, Content Syndication with RSS, by Ben Hammersley.

From the chapter introduction:

In this chapter, we'll look at how RSS feeds are structured: both the feed itself and the way RSS fits into the whole web publishing picture.

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Really Useful Simple Syndication (RUSS)


Really Useful Simple Syndication (RUSS) 05/11/2004 12:41 AM

missing kids rss

"Since I can't seem to find any way to contact the organization behind missingkids.com, I'll post my comment to them here. Please have someone in your web department create an RSS feed of missing children. I am confident all aggregator developers will add it to their default list of feeds, increasing the chance of finding more kids quicker." [Adam Curry: Adam Curry's Weblog]

Not only would it be great to have this kind of feed as a default in news aggregators, but the pictures could easily be syndicated on any web site.


XHTML For Syndication Sucks


XHTML For Syndication Sucks 12/03/2002 11:46 AM

I've been reading a lot lately about using XHTML instead of RSS for syndication of a web site in a news aggregator. The statement is this:

All that would be needed is standardization of names and classes for page elements like DIVs and headers. A post/entry title would always be an H3, with a class set to "title", for example. Permanent links would always be P tags with their classes set to "permalink". Simple.

To me, this is not only a terrible idea, but a lazy idea. (But, then again, I could be speaking hastily.) How hard is it to create an RSS file? How hard is it to setup MT? Why would I want to give up the right to name my .title class .blogtitle or .articletitle? I like RSS, it works well, and is automatically generated for me, as well as for everybody who has a use for it.

So I guess the whole point of using XHTML for syndication is to get away from having to type in http://noeljackson.com/index.xml instead of just pointing your aggregator to the base URL (http://noeljackson.com). But wait a sec isn't that what the <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="http://www.noeljackson.com/index.xml" /> tag is for?

The only plus is not having to maintain multiple files. But the same problem occurs, you have to mark-up your XHTML according to someone elses specs, just like with RSS. Except with RSS you can separate your content from your design, which makes RSS syndication faster than XHTML and to me it seems like a "cleaner" idea. I don't know about you, but I definitely don't want to see XHTML become the next syndication form. Don't hate me for saying that, but I just think there are better ways to do it. Having pure XML and an XSLT stylsheet for XHTML and RSS seems like the best way to do it to me. I just wish XSLT stylesheets could be easier to implement on the client side. Oh bother, I sure hope RSS sticks around.


syndication-land happenings


syndication-land happenings 01/11/2004 10:13 AM

A week has gone by since I came back and I'm still catching up with some of the things that have happened in syndication-land. For example, recently, Dave released a new "subscription aggregator" (meta-aggregator?) that allows members to see who's subscribing to who and do other interesting things. I haven't had time to digest all of its implications so I'll leave the comments for later, but from what I understand (and I haven't registered yet) it looks very cool.

Another example: Feedster has released an RSS feed for their "Feed of the day" feature, and they are doing a number of other interesting things that I haven't yet had time to fully explore. And, btw, my weblog was one of the first "feeds of the day" that was chosen (look in this page near the bottom). This happened months ago! Totally missed it. Thanks!

More later as my brain processes it. :)


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