JBoss's Fleury Abjures Astroturfing
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Astroturfing gone bad.
Astroturfing gone bad.
12/29/2003 01:49 PM Astroturfing
gone bad. Why aren't newspaper editors fighting this?
They've seen it before. Its one thing to offer a press
release and another to ask
visitors of the Bush-Cheney website to mail their newspapers
the same form letter.
Of Municipal Broadband, Astroturfing And
Figuring Out What The Real Story Is
Of Municipal Broadband, Astroturfing And
Figuring Out What The Real Story Is
02/05/2005 09:49 PMIt's been pretty fascinating to watch this story develop over the past
few days. Of course, it's nothing new to find out that supposedly
"objective" research was actually carried out to favor a specific
interest, but congratulations should go out to Glenn Fleishman for
focusing the attention on the real story here. The background is that
an organization called the New Millennium Research Council came out
with a report which seemed to suggest that all municipal broadband was
pure evil (well, not exactly, but that's how the pre-release info made
it sound). Glenn took it upon himself to
pull back some of
the curtain on the folks who were behind the report. eWeek then
took
that a step further, and suddenly the "story" was no longer about
the evils of municipal broadband -- but the sketchy connections
between powerful telco interests who have been fighting as hard as
they can against any kind of competition and the group that wrote the
study. Glenn later gave a
thorough review
of the actual report, where he notes it's not nearly as bad as it had
appeared from the initial leaks, and that it does raise some valid
points. However, the real story is the
underhanded way in
which this report was written, with money being funnelled from a
group supported by the big telcos to what appears to be nothing more
than a front organization to write up reports that favor its funders.
Now, others are
picking up on the astroturf attempt, rather than the
study itself.
Fist of Fleury
Fist of Fleury
05/23/2004 04:52 AM
Looks like Marc
Fleury,
JBoss boss and a world class bacon (?!?), is on the grill
again. He is being
accused of praising JBoss and trashing competitors anonymously at
well known Java
websites like TheServerSide. What
a character he is. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes an
appearance in the
next Tarantino movie.
Revisit Funnyside
of Open Source for a classic taste of Fleury.
Update:
BileBlog had
all the juicy bits on this story which surfaced when
TheServerSide forum added
a feature that lookups posts by IP address. Ouch! It
looks like rest of
the JBoss gang is into masquerading as well. I even recognize
some of the supposedly
bogus characters (underlined):
... Marc Fleury. Who else does the slimy little fleury have hidden
away in this too-large-for-one-person
personality of his? Why, none other than our friend Arun
Patel! Arun, for those
of you unfamiliar with TSS, posts incredibly offensive polemics
that happen to exactly
mirror the unspoken thoughts of a certain JBoss cult. ...
So, who else posts from that IP? Well, we have James Hardy.
James' posts are
often of the 'I'm sane but lets face it, JBoss rule' variety, as
opposed to another
on that list of deranged psychopaths, Chip Tyler. Chippie
here will eagerly
pipe in in any number of threads to say how much CDN suck, as well
as how every move
JBoss makes is intelligent and wise. There are literally dozens of
other accounts
that show how widespread this behaviour is. The only thing they
have in common is
a surprising love and admiration for all things JBossy, and disdain
and abuse for
all things non-JBossy.
Needless to say, Ben Sabrin and the majority of the JBoss folks are
all on the trail
too. So while it's impossible to actually draw lines between the fakes
and their puppetmasters,
it's very very easy to spot the group of nefarious rumprangers who
have embarked on
this laughably incompetent marketing exercise. Having said that, some
of the linkages
are very clear and easy to follow to individuals who happen to not
work in the same
turdfactory as the fleurys do. Bill Burke has the highly dubious
honour of also being Joe
Murray, famous for making noises to the effect of 'Mike Spille
doesn't exist!'.
Let's see you uuhmm and err your way out of this one Billy! Marc'll
have you back
in that gimp suit pretty sharpish if you keep being this sloppy.
The saddest part about all this is that the most likely outcome is
for these posters
to now ensure they use a different IP when posting, to disguise the
trail more effectively.
I'm sure the very notion of 'gosh, maybe we should let our software
do the talking
instead of using underhanded tactics like these' is heretical in
that camp.
Interview: JBoss CEO Marc Fleury
(TechWeb)
Interview: JBoss CEO Marc Fleury
(TechWeb)
05/01/2004 03:32 AMTechWeb - JBoss CEO and founder Marc Fleury recently spoke with CRN
Senior Editor Elizabeth Montalbano about why he's committed to open
source as a lucrative business model and how things have changed
between his company and Java steward Sun Microsystems since JBoss Inc.
became an official J2EE licensee.
JBoss?s Fleury: The benevolent dictator
is good for Java
JBoss?s Fleury: The benevolent dictator
is good for Java
04/30/2004 07:01 PMJBoss is best-known as the provider of the JBoss open source
application server, and it has also been known for having
disagreements with Sun about licensing of Java test suites. But those
disagreements were resolved in 2003. InfoWorld Editor at Large Paul
Krill met with JBoss CEO and Founder Marc Fleury during the ?J2EE
Kickoff Event? earlier this week in San Francisco to discuss the
company and open source issues.
JBoss' Fleury seeking for-profit open
source incubator
JBoss' Fleury seeking for-profit open
source incubator
03/06/2004 02:03 AMLast week, JBoss, Inc. received $10 million in venture funding in a
group led by Matrix Partners. But what does JBoss founder Marc Fleury
want to do with all that money? Is there any chance that VC investment
can water down the open source movement?
JBoss gets J2EE certification on the day
my interview with Marc Fleury appears
JBoss gets J2EE certification on the day
my interview with Marc Fleury appears
07/20/2004 03:07 AMMy interview with JBoss' Marc Fleury, including a transcript I
personally verified, is now online at IT Conversations. Interesting
that this appears on the very day that eWeek reports that JBoss' open
source server has been certified for the first...
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