IT Conversations: Ben and Mena Trott - Six Apart
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Congratulations Mena G. Trott and Ben
Trott
Congratulations Mena G. Trott and Ben
Trott
12/24/2004 12:46 PMMena G. Trott and Ben Trott of SixApart have been named People of
the Year by PC Magazine. Congrats to both and that is one of the
bigger Geek Awards one can win. [PC
Magazine]
Mena Trott steps down as SixApart CEO
Mena Trott steps down as SixApart CEO
07/14/2004 03:38 PMMena Trott has stepped down as CEO of SixApart, makers of Movable Type
and TypePad, in favour of Barak Berkowitz, one of their Series A
investors. Mena's written a heartfelt appreciation of Barak that is an
instant classic -- a unique example of a company founder's sincere
desire to see her efforts bear fruit, even if she's not's in charge
any longer (though she's staying on as President).
At our office, we had phone cables running up and down walls and
doorframes and across the floor. This mess was around for months until
one day Barak came to work with a T-shirt, some tool-belt type thing
and some device to do phone wiring. During the course of the
afternoon, Barak installed our phone lines and cleaned up the office.
Incidentally, while he was doing this, Maile, our administrative
assistant came in for her first interview with us and saw Barak. A
week or two later when we called her in for a second interview I asked
that she speak with Barak so that he could interview her as well.
After we hired Maile and explained who Barak was she laughed and said
"Oh, I thought he was the handyman and that this company really liked
to get everyone involved!"
Link
(
via Kottke)
Ben and Mena Trott: You forgot to dance
with who brung ya
Ben and Mena Trott: You forgot to dance
with who brung ya
05/14/2004 03:25 AMAfter I wrote the post this morning, Ben and Mena Trott sucker punch
the weblogging community, I had second thoughts about it, especially
the title, which has a moralistic and judgmental tone that isn't
appropriate. If it wasn't for my belief that it is almost always
dishonest to rewrite something that you have already published (and
that others have linked to), I would take the post down. Instead, I'm
writing a new version of it: As I said earlier, Six Apart has the
right to charge whatever the market will bear for their labor. So why
are people so outraged, and why is it a questionable business
decision? Is it just because Movable Type users are a bunch of whiners
who want something for nothing, as some believe? I don't think so. Six
Apart is reneging on a very public promise, and is treating the people
who helped make Movable Type a success very poorly. A little history
from a long-time user: Movable Type owes its success first of all to
Ben and Mena having done a great job designing, implementing and
updating a product with an excellent user interface and superb
documentation, and secondly to having it ready at just the right time
to catch the blogging wave. But the third factor in Movable Type's
success was the army of evangelists and contributors who sold the
products to their friends, businesses and community organizations, and
who contributed bug reports, bug fixes, responses on the bulletin
boards, and great plug-ins. In many ways, Movable Type was treated by
the community like a Free Software project, which it wasn't. But the
ethos of the MT 2.x license, if you make money off this software you
have to pay, if you don't you don't, was very similar to that of MySQL
and other open source companies, so people, in spite of warnings,
ignored the significant differences between it and free open source.
From a business point of view, Movable Type Personal was the seed
product, or the loss- leader, that sold Movable Type Commercial. The
other part of the history is that when Six Apart got VC funding and
shortly thereafter started work on TypePad, it stopped work on its
already announced 3.0 product, but didn't say anything publically
about it for many months. Meanwhile, the Movable Type comment spam
problem started and quickly threatened to grow to unmanageable
proportions. As resentment...
Ben and Mena Trott sucker punch the
webl0gging community
Ben and Mena Trott sucker punch the
webl0gging community
05/13/2004 02:02 PMOf course Six Apart has the right to charge whatever they want for
MovableType, but having repeatedly said that they would provide a free
version of MovableType 3.0 for personal use then announcing this
crippleware that is MT 3.0 personal is stupid at best, dishonest at
worst. Enraging your first customers and your developer community is a
strange path to business success. Hopefully they will reconsider after
being enveloped in the perfect storm that is brewing....
Mena Trott answers 6A's critics and
Geodog signs off on criticism
Mena Trott answers 6A's critics and
Geodog signs off on criticism
09/16/2004 03:40 AMI wasn't planning on ever writing anything about SixApart and
MovableType again, but today Kris Krug sent me mail alerting me to a
lengthy interview he did with Mena Trott, where she responds to some
of the recent criticism of Six Apart and the MT 3.0, and 3.1 releases:
MT: One of the biggest things that I want to get through (and that I
probably don't a good enough job of getting through) is that it's
completely untrue that we're this big corporate company and that we
don't care about the users-that it's all about just Ben and Mena and
the venture capitalists. It's not so; there are so many smart people
here who love what they're doing and love blogging. It dismisses their
value when people say the company is just a big corporation that
doesn't care about its users. People should understand that when
you're insulting the company, you're insulting a lot of people. We're
all good people and I wish everyone would take some time to see that.
There are so many other targets to focus on; our little company from
San Mateo is the least among them. The interview is worth reading in
its entirety, if you are interested in the whole MovableType saga and
some of the issues around the recent releases. To round out the view,
or if you want a different perspective, check out long time MT user
Ben Hammersley's opinion, Ben Trott's response, and 6A supporter and
plug-in writer Timothy Appnel's comments. I myself have said more than
enough about MovableType and SixApart, and gained some unwanted
notoriety through a poor choice of weblog post titles. I've also have
had my criticisms misrepresented, and Anil Dash has fairly called upon
me to examine my criticisms. As a result I reread Anil's post about
criticism, and reread for about the 10th time Phil Ringnalda's classic
post on the same subject, there is no they, and I've decided not to
spend any more time offering what Anil called "unsolicited criticism."
We all have more important things to do. I will just note that I as I
have said elsewhere thought MovableType was a was a brilliant product
when I first encountered it. The documentation, user interface,
features and support were superb. I enjoyed the time learning how to
hack the templates and add plugins. I appreciated the ethos of the old
MT license --...
Sean Trott in the news
Sean Trott in the news
03/13/2003 10:17 AMI tried to tell this kid that a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush.
But did he listen?...
Thoughtful post by Ben Trott on the
misconceptions people have about the
role of design in software development
Thoughtful post by Ben Trott on the
misconceptions people have about the
role of design in software development
12/13/2003 04:50 AMMena's every much of a programmer as Ben .. credit she
deserves
sixapart.com/log/2003/12/software_develo.shtml
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"Mena による久し振りの長文
Entry"
"Mena による久し振りの長文
Entry"
07/14/2004 10:18 PMBen and Mena come to London...
Ben and Mena come to London...
07/09/2004 03:00 AMSo Ben and Mena and Loic have been in London for
meetings and a few of us managed to get together and hang out with
them for a bit. We've got Ben drinking warm flavoursome beer, Mena
puffing away on cigarettes in pubs and Loic's been trying to run over
small children with his push trolley. We even got to roam around
Television Centre with them a bit today - Mena making a particularly
fetching weather presenter.




Loic took some pictures too:
Read the comments
some clarification from Mena at Six
Apart
some clarification from Mena at Six
Apart
05/15/2004 07:05 PMaddressed some of these concerns today .. The Movable Type 3.0 FAQ ..
posted a clarification .. this link to an update .. Mena and the
changes .. explanation .. firestorm .. go
over
sixapart.com/log/2004/05/movable_type_30.shtml
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Ben and Mena come to London
Ben and Mena come to London
07/10/2004 04:58 AMweather presenter .. Tom Coates ..
more
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Ben and Mena, I take it all back!
Ben and Mena, I take it all back!
12/23/2003 12:23 AMBen and Mena Trott have made up in a big way for their earlier silence
on future plans for MovableType. In a series of postings on Six Apart
and MovableType, they have announced release of a security update to
MT, support for Atom 0.3, and a feature list and time frame for
MovableType 3.0.. It all sounds great, and to my surprise it seems
that they intend to keep the current pricing structure, e.g. free for
non-commercial use. I hereby volunteer to be a Beta tester. I and some
others have complained publically and privately to about the lack of
news regarding MovableType. I received some kind private email from
Mena, but this kind of an announcement demonstrates better than
anything that the Trotts listen to user feedback, and that they have
not forgotten their first users. It makes me feel a little sheepish
about my earlier criticism -- I hope that it was useful, in the way it
was intended to be. Certainly the least I can do now is volunteer as a
Beta tester and send some of my Christmas pin money their way, to help
pay for all the engineering and usability work. To Ben and Mena and
the rest of the team at MT/SA, thanks for all the news, and thanks for
the hard work that it represents....
mena holds a gun to my head
mena holds a gun to my head
08/04/2004 03:21 PMthis is how we motivate workers at six apart
nice interview with ben and mena
nice interview with ben and mena
05/15/2004 07:09 AMi like the part at 12:00 where mena gets genuinely choked up talking
about how kind our users are
help ben and mena get on Yahoo! Most
Emailed
help ben and mena get on Yahoo! Most
Emailed
02/18/2004 09:35 PMif our blogging tool was called "pair of boobs and a kitten"
we'd already be number one
Ben and Mena make the Fast 50
Ben and Mena make the Fast 50
02/16/2004 01:17 PMi am always amused by lists that treat the Trott as a single entity
mena on salon's six apart article
mena on salon's six apart article
08/09/2004 04:40 PMit's always nice to have an outside perspective
"Mena on comment spam and the new
version of MT"
"Mena on comment spam and the new
version of MT"
12/24/2004 01:00 PMDear Ben and Mena, Thanks for lunch!
[Flickr]
Dear Ben and Mena, Thanks for lunch!
[Flickr]
02/05/2005 10:08 PM"IT Conversations"
"IT Conversations"
08/17/2004 03:14 PMmena on tightly knit bonds in bl0gging
mena on tightly knit bonds in bl0gging
07/09/2004 12:06 PMthe real weblog revolution and a defense of personal weblogs
MENA Mobile Subscriptions 60% below
Market Potential
MENA Mobile Subscriptions 60% below
Market Potential
09/13/2004 03:17 AMThe Middle East & North Africa region has only 45m current subscribers
from an addressable mobile market of 115m. This large spread
emphasizes the tremendous pent up demand and the profitability
potential awaiting the mobile operators best suited to tackle this
regions needs. [PRWEB Sep 13, 2004]
The IT Conversations Studio
The IT Conversations Studio
01/08/2004 08:12 PMWe're
often asked about our recording setup. Since we
produced our
first IT Conversation in June 2003, we've
continuously upgraded
our equipment and processes, and if you listen to
our shows
in chronological order, you'll have no trouble
hearing the
differences.
The photo at right shows part of our studio. For
highest
quality, and because we're four miles from the
telephone company's
central office, our studio telephone lines (since
9/16/03)
are digital ISDN and are connected to a Telos-ONE
digital hybrid through an Adtran
Express 3000 terminal adapter. The caller and
studio audio
(from Electro-Voice
RE20 dynamic microphones, as of 1/5/04) pass
through a
Behringer
UB802 mixer and a Behringer
Pro-XL MD2600 noise gate, compressor, limiter, and
de-esser.
As of January 2004, we've been recording digitally
on a PC
at 24 bits and 96kHz through an Echo
MiaMIDI interface. We also record a backup direct
to audio
CD using the Marantz
CDR300 shown above.
For post production we normalize the tracks using
Sony
SoundForge 7.0 and clean them up with Sonic
Foundry Noise Reduction. Staying in the 24/96
format,
we then edit, EQ, and mixdown with Flavio
Antonioli's n-Track
Studio. Finally, we take our 24/96 files back to
SoundForge
where we use Wave Hammer and other tools to master
for 16-bit, and convert to MP3 format using the
Fraunhofer
IIS encoder. Of course, after listening to IT
Conversations
squeezed into 32kbps/22,050Hz MP3s (to keep
filesizes small),
you probably wonder if it's worth all this
trouble. Well,
it really does help, but it's too bad you can't
hear our beautiful
originals!
In the field we sometimes record
on a Sony
MZ-N10 MiniDisc recorder (shown on the right side
of the
photo) fed by Audio-Technica
ATR35s lavalier microphones.
The web site runs on a Linux server with Apache and
mySQL.
Server-side scripting is done in PHP, and we use
the Smarty
template package with home-brew caching and
content-management
software. MP3 streaming is done using a SHOUTcast
server.
Debugging conversations
Debugging conversations
12/30/2004 09:55 PMWrote a lengthy piece, so I dropped it on a separate page:
There's one particular method of conversation that can be annoying as
hell, if you do not understand it. I call it "debugging",
as I seem to most hit it in the technology-savvy crowd. It also seems
to be the weapon of choice in many net conversations, especially in
the USENET.
The typical debugger views a stated argument as a true/false statement
- either it's completely true, or completely false. It is only true if
all of the sentences in that statement are verifiably true, and
therefore it is okay to attack the weakest link of the sentence,
because if that can be proven false - or even uncertain - the entire
argument collapses like a flan in a cupboard.
It's just like software: a single flaw in an otherwise perfect
algorithm will render it useless - or even dangerous. That is why it
is important to find the flaw, and not concentrate on the bits that
already work. This is the strange dualism of computer programming -
in order to make the whole fun ...
More...
"IT Conversations Sells Out"
"IT Conversations Sells Out"
04/03/2005 10:12 PMIdeas for Better Conversations
Ideas for Better Conversations
04/06/2005 05:53 PM
The Idea:
A summary of the importance of conversation as a catalyst of cultural
evolution, the seven purposes of conversation, some 'cultural
anthropology' on how conversations 'operate' today, and a first stab
at
some rules or principles we could learn and adopt to produce better,
more effective and productive conversations.
In
my article
Seeing
the Big Picture (Building a Bigger Frame)
I argued for the need for more expansive thinking to encompass,
understand and build on different points of view, rather than
reinforcing and polarizing those points of view through parochial and
antagonistic argument. One of the crucial tools we use to exercise and
expand our
thinking is conversation, and it occurred to me that if we want to
learn to think in ways that transcend the old, learning to converse in
ways that transcend the old might be a good place to start. Humberto
Maturana has said:
Human existence takes place in
the relational space of conversation. This means that, even though
from
a biological perspective we are Homo Sapiens, our way of living - that
is to say, our human condition - takes place in our form of relating
to
each other and the world we bring forth in our daily living through
conversation.
If you're like me, you've engaged in your share of eavesdropping in
public places -- restaurants, bars, elevators, cocktail parties,
subway
trains. What is disturbing is not that the subject matter and
arguments
are usually inane (though they are), but that the syntax, the flow,
and
the composition
of the conversational threads are so awkward, sloppy, selfish and
extravagant. It's been said that conversation is like a dance: It
requires some grace, some courtesy to avoid stepping on your partners'
toes, and agreement on who (at any point) is leading and who is
following. Perhaps this is why conversations that involve three or
more
people at once are often so clumsy, more like a sequence of two-person
conversations one after the other with (to strain the dance analogy)
different people constantly butting in, usually before the song in
progress has properly ended.
Recently I read a wonderful quote that went something like this: Are
you listening or just waiting your turn to talk?
Sound like someone you know?
A recent article<
/a> by Australian Open Space practitioner Alan Stewart
suggests five purposes for
conversation: learning, reassurance, building trust, "working out what
is important" and entertainment. Here's (I think) a more complete list
from one
of my 2003 posts:
- Educating: teaching or learning
something useful or interesting
- Conceptualizing: Thinking out loud,
organizing and
articulating thoughts, challenging, understanding something better,
reassuring
- Rehearsing: practicing to improve language
skills
- Socializing: finding people with
similar ideas, interests or ambitions
- Convincing: selling, seducing, persuading, engaging,
building trust
- Assisting: helping others or getting help
- Entertaining: amusing, escaping, overcoming boredom,
indifference, loneliness, shyness, or low self-esteem
It's humbling to note that Bernd Heinrich provides
examples in Mind of the Raven
of all seven of these purposes to various raven vocalizations. And in
his examples, ravens seem to be decidedly better at it than most
humans. Perhaps that's due to the fact they've been around longer than
we have, so they've had more practice at it. It couldn't be just that
they have better manners, could it? ;-)
In his article Stewart says:
From circles of elders around
ancient campfires to the conversations in the cafés and salons
that
spawned the French Revolution, people have always gathered for real
conversation about questions that matter. In those times and places
where innovation is born other simple conditions are also present. In
addition to pursuit of a question that really matters and commitment
to
creating the space and time to explore it, it is crucial that mutual
listening and a spirit of discovery infuse the conversations. A
certain
type of "magic" appearsthe magic of a new collective
intelligence
arising from the individual minds present in the conversation. The
wisdom needed to address the concerns of any group is already "in the
middle of the circle" waiting to be tapped. These webs of
conversations
and the action commitments that naturally arise from them can serve as
the energy generator, the amplifier, the core unit of change force for
co-evolving the future in any
system.
He quotes Konrad Lorenz' on the hazards of conversation: "Said is not
heard; heard is
not understood; understood is not agreed to; agreed to is not carried
out". This is a more concise way of laying out the enormous
intellectual and emotional challenge entailed in conversation that I
described in my That's Not What I
Meant article
. Here is a recap of my amateur observations about conversations from
that post:
- Linguistics professor Deborah Tannenbaum says
women and men (with some notable exceptions) converse in entirely
different ways, and they converse differently with members of the
opposite sex than with members of their own.
- Conversations
have a myriad of complex but unspoken
cultural norms, styles and rituals (taking turns, pausing, nodding,
apologizing for interrupting or misunderstanding etc.) When two people
with different norms, styles, or rituals try to converse, or when a
third person ignorant of the styles or rituals shared by the other two
tries to enter a conversation, the result is both comical and tragic.
A
form of violence, even.
- Most people don't appear to listen to what they themselves
are saying. Many conversations include someone saying "I didn't say
that" when in fact they did. I suspect if people listened to a tape or
video recording of their conversations they would be stunned. They
might never say anything again!
- Most of the real communication
in a conversation is not in the words. It's in the nuances of body and
eye language. It's in the tone of voice. It's in the pauses. It's in the
physical proximity or distance of the conversants.
- Many effective conversations appear to be really
interviews.
That entails specific roles for the two conversants, with the
interviewer's role being the more difficult and more important. If one
person is mostly asking questions and the other person is doing most
of
the talking, it's an interview, not a conversation.
- Conversations with more than two people are generally
either parallel sequences of two-person conversations, or moderated conversations, where one
person is clearly directing the conversational 'traffic'.
- Conversations would, I think, be much more effective
if we
had a ritual of having each conversant state upfront what their
personal objective for the conversation is. I appreciate that in some
cases this must be done tactfully: "I've wanted to meet you since Mr.
A
told me that you... ", or "I'm looking for some help with..." In the
absence of such a protocol, a lot of initial conversations exhaust an
enormous amount of participants' energy trying to figure this out
tacitly.
- From watching online chat (the only written medium
that in
my opinion is fast and immediate enough to really qualify as
'conversation') and listening to young people especially talk, what
people seem to want most from conversation with friends is reassurance.
Everyone is always fishing for compliments and confirmation, and,
unless and until they clearly know and trust the offerer very well,
dubious of the offerer's motivation when they get them. Few people, it
seems, are really looking for advice, debate, or 'constructive
criticism' in a conversation. But many seem enthusiastic to offer
these
things anyway!
- You can tell almost immediately whether participants
in a
conversation trust each other or not. If you want to observe
conversations where there is trust, go out for dinner a lot, and avoid
offices and bars.

I'm coming to believe that good conversation, like good collaboration,
is a skill, and, just as a lot of practice dancing badly does not make
you a better dancer, just talking a lot does not necessarily make you
a
better conversationalist (in fact I suspect it may make you worse at
it, by entrenching bad habits). If it's a skill it should be possible
to learn it and teach it. And, while the seven 'purposes' of
conversations bulleted in red above might require somewhat different
skills, I suspect that there is a basic conversational 'skill set'
that
is common to all purposes.
The following list of 'rules' or 'principles' or 'elements' of good
conversation constitute my first attempt at identifying what we would
need to learn, and teach, to be better conversationalists.
Unfortunately, it seems likely that the quality of the conversation
will inevitably be at the level of the poorest conversationalist, just
as the performance of a dancing couple will reflect the
least-accomplished partner. This list is the result of thinking out
loud, and I'm sure it is far from complete. Please join the
conversation!
- We need to learn to do three things simultaneously: (a)
listen intently and carefully to what others are saying, (b) think the
arguments and concepts through in our own mind (and draw our own
conclusions), and (c) articulate what we are going to say before we
speak. This is extremely difficult, especially in a large group. If
all
participants do not do this, the result is a vicious cycle of poor
conversation: not listening (and disengaging), not thinking, and not
articulating properly, leading to more 'not listening'.
- We need to limit how many words we say before we
allow, and encourage, others to speak, to keep the conversation 'in
sync'.
- We need to allow pauses in the conversation, for
people to
catch up, and think coherently about what direction the conversation
might most effectively go next.
- We need perhaps (I'm not sure)
to allow and encourage
people to pull themselves periodically out of the conversation and
facilitate it as if they were non-participants: summarizing,
time-checking, asking questions, drawing people out, even suggesting
how the conversation might be made more productive. Is that
presumptuous and manipulative?
- We need, as I suggest above, a
'ritual' (protocol) by which
each participant and new entrant in a conversation begins with a brief
upfront tactful statement of their personal objective for the
conversation.
- We need another 'ritual' that would allow
participants
whose objective in the conversation is not being met to leave without
excuse or apology and without other participants (even if there is
only
one!) taking offense. How else will selfish conversationalists ever
learn?
- Back to the dance analogy, we need to evolve (or
rediscover) tacit ways to cede and request the floor without
interrupting the conversation or its flow, and tacit ways to invite or
welcome others to join a conversation without side-tracking it with
formal introductions. Could we evolve, as birds seem to have done,
some
graceful (good
conversation, it seems to me, has a lot to do with grace) wordless
gestures that would accomplish this, and allow us to signal that we
would like to speak, who (if we have the floor) we are inviting to
speak next, when we are finished speaking, that we understand, that we
don't understand, that the speaker should let someone else talk,
etc.
- We need to learn to read and understand body
language, and
to express body language unambiguously. It's an essential part of the
conversation, and suppressing it or distorting it muffles the
conversation.
- There is a new technology just announced that
captures
every conversation you participate in, records it, compresses it, and
transcribes it. I'm ambivalent about this. Recording of conversations
makes me shudder, yet it might allow us to retrieve information
(contact information, context information) later that could be
enormously valuable. We need to decide how to extract the benefits
from
such technology without incurring its risks, and without its
trust-threatening and conversation-dampening attributes.
- We
need to learn to be much better story-tellers, and more
improvisational.
- We need to learn effective listening techniques, and
critical thinking skills.
- Prevailing wisdom is that we need to
be more respectful,
more polite in our conversations. While I don't doubt this would be
helpful, I'm not sure it can be taught or mandated. What are the
'model
behaviours' that set an example for respect and politeness in
conversations? What can we do to tactfully nudge those (especially
when
it's our boss!) who fail to demonstrate respect and politeness even
when others are behaving in an exemplary way?
OK, I've said (more than) enough. Thank you for listening. Your turn
to speak.
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Conversations with America
Conversations with America
05/09/2004 02:07 PM
Studs Terkel: Conversations with
America (in Real audio).
AOL: AIM Conversations Are Safe
AOL: AIM Conversations Are Safe
03/14/2005 04:32 PMAmerica Online quells public criticism of changes to its AIM terms of
service, insisting the controversial privacy clause does not pertain
to user-to-user instant messaging communication.
100 Conversations with 100 CEOs
100 Conversations with 100 CEOs
05/17/2004 01:22 PM This week Red Herring is hosting 100 Conversations with 100 CEOs from
the Red Herring 100 on 100 Socialtext Weblogs -- an unprecedented
opportunity for direct conversation with leading private companies.
Socialtext is facilitating an Eventspace for Red Herring...
"Meg, Ev, Paul Bausch, Ben, and Mena are
PC Magazine's People of the Year"
"Meg, Ev, Paul Bausch, Ben, and Mena are
PC Magazine's People of the Year"
12/25/2004 05:03 PMFree Range Conversations
Free Range Conversations
02/01/2005 10:09 PMBesides the excellent content, it’s fun reading Karen
Schneider’s Free Range
Librarian blog these days because she’s discovering the
sense of community and the unexpected level of conversation you get when you blog with
open comments. I say “unexpected” because you never expect
anyone else to really care enough to take the time to enter a comment,
and yet it turns out a lot of people care enough. I never,
ever anticipated that side of it, and it’s become one
of the things I really love about my blog. Trackback fills in a whole
other side of the conversation, the cross-blog one.
And
that’s what library organizations don’t get –
conversation. That’s why ALA,
LITA,
ILA, and other major institutions
don’t blog, certainly not with open comments. Even this
seems beyond their reach right now. But that’s what we need
to open up – a conversation with the outside world, as
well as amongst ourselves.
Bonus FRL quote (emphasis is
mine): “Donning my lii.org
hat, we had a remarkable education when we added RSS feeds.
Now people find us through the blog-finding agents.
Librarians, including me, suck at marketing, but by adding RSS feeds,
we stumbled onto a way for the audience to find us, instead of the
glacially slow process of dissemination through our existing
readership.”
AOL 0wns Your iChat Conversations
AOL 0wns Your iChat Conversations
03/14/2005 05:45 PMThe Gray Box: Kitchen conversations
The Gray Box: Kitchen conversations
06/17/2005 06:30 PMAt some point, it occurred to me that the frequent kitchen
conversations I was having with my wife River about tech were better
than many podcasts I've heard. So, I'm recording and releasing them as
a new podcast, The Gray...
"Submitting Audio to IT Conversations"
"Submitting Audio to IT Conversations"
12/22/2004 01:31 AMMarkets are (unpaid) conversations
Markets are (unpaid) conversations
08/19/2004 07:12 PMBlogversations matches bloggers with advertisers. As far as I can tell
from the not-enough-informational site, the blogger writes about some
topic the advertiser suggests and gets paid for it. It's clear from
the site's defensive writing, however, that Blogversations knows its
project is in danger of being misunderstood ... or, perhaps,
understood. Unclear from the site: Is the fact that the bloggers are
getting paid made apparent? And where do these "conversation" occur?
Unfortunately, there's no obvious way to get more information about
what Blogversations is proposing except by registering. By the way,
their phrase "markets are discussions" sounds oddly...
Speaking of funny IM conversations
Speaking of funny IM conversations
07/16/2004 08:39 AM
I think fake IM conversations are becoming a new legitimate form of
satire. Here is one of the
classics.
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When Private Conversations Are Thrust
Upon You
When Private Conversations Are Thrust
Upon You
06/14/2004 06:00 PMHaving just taken a cross-country flight a few days ago, I definitely
noticed the growing trend of "wheels down, cell phones up" described
in this article
decrying the fact that private
conversations are now quite public. It seemed like almost
everyone on the plane pulled out a phone as soon as we landed.
Admittedly, I was no exception, but I only checked voicemail and email
messages while waiting for the plane to clear out. I didn't make a
phone call until I was safely in the terminal and could find a quiet
corner to hide in, while checking to make sure my ride was on its way.
So many people seem to forget when they're on the phone that others
around them really don't care about the private aspects of the
conversation they're having. The article notes that it's sort of the
reverse problem of protecting your own privacy. Instead, you get the
private lives of others thrust upon you by everyone around you
chatting away on their mobile phones. It's really not that difficult
to find a somewhat more private place to go if you really need to
discuss something privately.
Lots of great conversations to have
Lots of great conversations to have
03/14/2005 05:09 PMSo here I am at SXSW - and they won't let yah ask questions til the
end. But there should be some really interesting conversations
today.
Topics include:
- why do the A-list bloggers have some many disciples? As soon as
they sit down out in the hallway, they're swarmed by legions of
disciples.
- I wonder what the difference between 'emergent semantics' and
emergent democracy'? Or better put "what's the difference between the
semantic web and the SEMANTIC WEB?"
- the Macromedia people are here - and their stock is up.
Apparently Wall. St. thinks their Flash Mobile strategy means
something. But wait till people discover my former comapny - they'll
go running in the opposite direction. The folks here seem nice enough
- but if you got the kind of bosses they have - well I wouldn't wish
it upon strangers. They (the bosses) will find some way of fucking
this up - just like they have so many times before. The oly good news
is rumors of a buyout. THEN maybe they can get some decent management
in there.
- blogging showdown vs DIY or someone else
will vs Bram Cohen interview - hmmmmmm. So
many decisions to make.
- I ran into Harry Knowles. His "Aint-it-cool-news" is based
here in Austin. I also got to meet his webmaster. They're one of my
heros.
- Lots of other coolio panels like Open Source Marketing, We the
Media, the New New economy and Red Sox Blog.
- and a Malcolm Gladwell keynote,
We doing a panel on open source infrastructure.
"IT Conversations News: April 1, 2005"
"IT Conversations News: April 1, 2005"
04/03/2005 10:12 PMGrok Description matches for IT Conversations: Ben and Mena Trott - Six Apart
GrokA matches for IT Conversations: Ben and Mena Trott - Six Apart
IT Conversations: Ben and Mena Trott - Six Apart