Partners, Rivals Fall in Line with Sun's J2EE 1.4
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Sun's McNealy swings at rivals
Sun's McNealy swings at rivals
06/29/2004 06:59 PMSun's feisty CEO puts up his dukes in a speech that jabs at IBM, Red
Hat, Microsoft and Congress.
CSS and RSS: Rivals or Partners?
CSS and RSS: Rivals or Partners?
02/01/2005 08:42 PMI recently made plans to attend this year's South by Southwest conference and was
reminded of a conversation I had at last year's SxSW. I was talking
about RSS with someone who has long been a supporter of CSS-based web
design, and he feared that the success of RSS meant that design has
lost the battle to content. After all, RSS is all about content -
when you read a site's feed in an aggregator like FeedDemon, you're
not seeing the hard work put into that site's design. This lead to a
comment that TopStyle and FeedDemon were in fact at odds with each
other.
I hadn't considered that before, but it made sense. TopStyle is all about
designing standards-compliant CSS-based designs, whereas FeedDemon enables
skipping the design and just reading a site's content. But then it
occurred to me that instead of being polar opposites, my programs are
actually complementary. TopStyle's CSS creation enables the
separation of layout from content, leading to smaller, faster-loading
sites whose design information is contained in style sheets rather
than interwoven with every page. This makes it much easier
to repurpose a site's content for use in an RSS feed.
Plus, in many ways RSS is an offspring of blogging, and blogging
tools rely heavily on CSS-based design. Just look at sites hosted by
TypePad and Blogger, or sites which rely on
blogging tools such as MovableType and WordPress - almost all of them
use CSS to separate their layout from their content.
So, rather than being rivals, I think CSS has helped enable the
spread of RSS.
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Sun's EMEA head talks of partners,
processors
Sun's EMEA head talks of partners,
processors
06/03/2004 12:18 PMAnalysts have lauded as pragmatic Sun Microsystems Inc.'s announcement
this week that it is teaming with Fujitsu Ltd. to jointly develop and
distribute its next generation of Sparc-based servers, due out in
mid-2006. It will allow the company to pare costs and throw more
weight behind its "throughput computing" drive while keeping the Sparc
torch aflame, they say.
Microsoft and Google: Partners or Rivals
?
Microsoft and Google: Partners or Rivals
?
11/01/2003 07:26 AMMicrosoft has offered to buy out Google .. New York Times: Technology
..
Oy
nytimes.com/2003/10/31/technology/31net.html?ex=1382936400&en=2a3
168df9852f090&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND
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Microsoft and Google Partners or Rivals
Microsoft and Google Partners or Rivals
11/01/2003 05:17 AMNew York Times ..
approached
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0&en=9611591c74179e13&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
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Microsoft And Google: Partners Or
Rivals?
Microsoft And Google: Partners Or
Rivals?
11/01/2003 04:14 AMspurned by Google .. New York
Times
nytimes.com/2003/10/31/technology/31net.html?hp
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Microsoft and Google: Partners or
Rivals?
Microsoft and Google: Partners or
Rivals?
10/30/2003 11:57 PMNew York Times Oct 30 2003 11:51PM ET
"Microsoft And Google: Partners Or
Rivals?"
"Microsoft And Google: Partners Or
Rivals?"
11/01/2003 09:36 AM"Microsoft and Google: Partners or
Rivals?"
"Microsoft and Google: Partners or
Rivals?"
10/31/2003 04:03 PMMicrosoft and Google: Partners or
rivals?
Microsoft and Google: Partners or
rivals?
10/31/2003 12:45 PM"New York Times | Microsoft and Google:
Partners or Rivals?"
"New York Times | Microsoft and Google:
Partners or Rivals?"
11/01/2003 03:09 PMEnd of the day for Sun's Cobalt line
End of the day for Sun's Cobalt line
01/02/2004 12:01 PMZDNet Jan 2 2004 11:17AM ET
Rivals line up to take on Office
Rivals line up to take on Office
05/19/2004 04:31 AMZDNet UK May 19 2004 8:28AM GMT
Nokia Unveils New Phone Line-Up to
Confront Rivals
Nokia Unveils New Phone Line-Up to
Confront Rivals
06/14/2004 12:30 AMBoston Globe Jun 14 2004 4:09AM GMT
Nokia Unveils New Phone Line-Up to
Confront Rivals (Reuters)
Nokia Unveils New Phone Line-Up to
Confront Rivals (Reuters)
06/13/2004 11:07 PMReuters - Finland's Nokia, the world's largest
mobile phone maker, launched five new models on Monday,
including one billed as the world's smallest 3G phone, as it
seeks to claw back market share from rivals.
Microsoft Puts SQL Server in Line With
Rivals on Backup Databases
Microsoft Puts SQL Server in Line With
Rivals on Backup Databases
06/07/2004 10:33 AMMicrosoft last month announced that it would no longer charge Software
Assurance customers for backup database servers, provided that the
systems remain off unless the main database crashes or is corrupted
and that they aren't used for processing on a regular basis.
Previously, users had to pay a variable fee to install a backup SQL
Server database for disaster recovery purposes, said Sunny Charlebois,
a product manager in Microsoft's worldwide licensing and pricing
group.
Toshiba adds partners for networking
line
Toshiba adds partners for networking
line
03/24/2005 08:14 PMToshiba America's Digital Solutions Division (TAIS DSD) announced
Thursday it is offering a total IP telephony solution consisting of
its new Toshiba Strata CIX pure IP telephony system along with
networking, security, and wireless products and services from Peak
Technologies, SMC Networks, and SonicWALL.
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Toshiba adds partners for networking
line (InfoWorld)
Toshiba adds partners for networking
line (InfoWorld)
03/24/2005 07:32 PMInfoWorld - Toshiba America's Digital Solutions Division (TAIS DSD)
announced Thursday it is offering a total IP telephony solution
consisting of its new Toshiba Strata CIX pure IP telephony system
along with networking, security, and wireless products and services
from Peak Technologies, SMC Networks, and SonicWALL.
Private Line Demand Increases Even as
Prices Fall, says Insight Research
Private Line Demand Increases Even as
Prices Fall, says Insight Research
09/15/2004 02:12 AM Despite increasing enterprise demand for bandwidth, the private line
service market will see revenue decline by the close of 2004,
according to a new market research study from The Insight Research
Corporation. The sector’s revenue decline is a consequence of falling
prices across all line speeds and segments. A private line is a
dedicated non-switched circuit or communications channel that is
leased for a specified period. This channel provides a private and
direct connection between at least two sites, and is typically used by
large enterprise data centers to connect to the Internet. [PRWEB Sep
15, 2004]
Keeping Party Line, Bottom Line Separate
(Los Angeles Times)
Keeping Party Line, Bottom Line Separate
(Los Angeles Times)
07/28/2004 05:45 AMLos Angeles Times - BEIJING — Taiwanese video game salesman
Simon Chang was drinking beer with a mainland customer at a nightclub
here recently, laughing as a stand-up comedian delivered off-the-news
material, Jay Leno-style.
End of the line? How mobiles are
preparing to replace your land line
End of the line? How mobiles are
preparing to replace your land line
05/24/2004 07:42 AMBBC May 24 2004 12:15PM GMT
J2EE 1.5 previewed
J2EE 1.5 previewed
04/26/2004 07:03 PMSAN FRANCISCO -- Ease of development will be a core focus of J2EE 1.5,
the follow-up to the much-heralded J2EE 1.4, a Sun Microsystems
official said on Monday.
Breaking up J2EE
Breaking up J2EE
06/06/2002 06:00 AMCNET Jun 5 2002 10:13PM ET
Dentata J2EE CMS
Dentata J2EE CMS
06/04/2004 07:10 PMDentata J2EE CMS Approved
Dot-Net vs. J2EE shootout.
Dot-Net vs. J2EE shootout.
03/12/2003 11:18 PMThe shootout was
a bit too long and a little too fluffy, but I enjoyed it. I took 20
pages of notes and I will probably write them up for you later but for
right now, I'll just give you some quotes from the J2EE team:
Mark Fleury:
The worst dog of them all is SOAP.
Sang Shin:
Security is not an industry problem, it is a Microsoft problem.
Mark Fleury:
C# to be the number one language in two years: you've got to be
kidding me.
Mark Fleury:
JBoss is a responsible, moral, and open player.
Sang Shin:
Web services is like teenage sex, everybody is talking about it but
nobody is doing it.
Sang Shin:
My grandmother called me last night to tell me that she is doing web
services.
Mark Fleury:
ADO sucks, Dot-Net caching is not there.
Greg Ackerman:
C# is great, very Java like.
Stitching up J2EE
Stitching up J2EE
12/02/2003 01:18 AMHelp us support both your platforms, or we'll write for neither. That
seems to be what ISVs have been saying to IBM and ...
J2EE Security
J2EE Security
12/22/2003 01:49 PMSimon P. Chappell writes "Security is not just for the paranoid
anymore. There is plenty of documented evidence to show that there are
people that are out to ...
J2EE 1.5 will ease development, says Sun
J2EE 1.5 will ease development, says Sun
04/27/2004 10:22 AMComputer Weekly Apr 27 2004 2:07PM GMT
Sun Gives Early Peek at J2EE 1.5
Sun Gives Early Peek at J2EE 1.5
05/07/2004 07:41 AMAt the Serverside Java Symposium, Sun execs say ease of development is
the major theme of the Java 2 Enterprise Edition 1.5 as Sun pushes to
attract more developers.
The LAMP alternative to J2EE or .Net
The LAMP alternative to J2EE or .Net
04/06/2005 12:14 PMLinux, Apache, MySQL and either Perl, PHP or Python provide low-cost,
open-source options.
Cyanea buy should help IBM compete in
J2EE and APS
Cyanea buy should help IBM compete in
J2EE and APS
08/10/2004 09:25 PMComputer Weekly Aug 11 2004 1:07AM GMT
Notes from the Dot-Net vs J2EE shootout
Notes from the Dot-Net vs J2EE shootout
03/15/2003 01:29 PM
Here are my notes from the
TechEngage J2EE vs. Dot-Net
shootout. I tried to be objective while I took these notes
Wednesday and while I typed them in today. I may have made some
mistakes and I may have let some of my open-source/Java bias show
through. You be the judge and leave a comment if you see something
that does not look right.
Opening Statements
MS [Dot-Net]: Dot-Net is a vision of XML web services enabled
by the Dot-Net Framework that happens on the Windows platform. The
evolution of computing goes like this: Mainframe OLTP, Client-server
OLTP, N-Tier TP monitors (MTS 1997, first OTM), web applications
(J2EE, Cold Fusion, Windows DNA), and finally Web Services on the
Dot-Net
platform. When people learn about Dot-Net they wonder where is the app
server? The app server is the Dot-Net Framework, Windows 2003 Server
(with load balancing and clustering), plus developer tools (like
Borland Sidewinder and Together Control Center). Windows is the app
server.
Sam Shim, Sun [J2EE]: Let's talk about Microsoft's contribution
to the evolution of computing. Microsoft's contribution is Fear,
Uncertainty, and Doubt. F. U. D. FUD. Let's talk about some of the FUD
that Microsoft is spreading. FUD #1 is that J2EE is expensive. Don't
listen to them. J2EE is free. The analysts at Gartner say that the
hidden cost of Dot-Net is 40%-60% (sorry, couldn't follow this). FUD
#2 is that the Dot-Net server is a product. Dot-Net server is not a
product yet. Once it is released, how many bugs will it have? How many
security problems?
Microsoft says that portability is not important. This is very
important. Microsoft wants to lock you in. Single vendor lock-in.
Lock-in is not a horrible problem when you are talking about
applications like office suites, but for infrastructure, single vendor
lock-in is very dangerous and expensive. Microsoft touts
interoperability, but only as a bait to draw you into single vendor
lock-in. They also say that J2EE is no good for web services:
wrong.
FUD #4 is that Dot-Net performs better. This is only true in Microsoft
funded benchmarks that are tuned in favor of Microsoft. And look at
this paper about the Dot-Net Petshop, it shows that the Petshop is
pure spaghetti code. Look at this method call from the Dot-Net Petshop
(everybody laughs), this method has 36 arguments. Spaghetti!
FUD #5 is that Microsoft believes in standards and interoperability,
but Dot-Net is not a standard. Only about 5% of Dot-Net has been
submitted as a standard. None of the important stuff you need to
develop app is standard: Winforms, ADO, etc. Even when Microsoft
supports a standard, they always add that "Microsoft extra" that
breaks compatility with other implementations of the standard. Here is
a list of examples: Kerberos, etc. etc.
Greg Ackerman, IBM [J2EE]: I like Letterman and his top ten
list so here is my top ten list for J2EE:
1. Openness, avoid single user lock-in
2. Web services, J2EE fully supports
3. Superior platform support, TCO, scalability, Linux
J2EE websphere reference customers (eBay)
4. Products designed to fit your needs
5. J2EE connects to what you already have
6. World class leading development tools
7. Best dev support programs
8. Partner support
9. IBM does not compete with ISVs
10. J2EE is a complete platform
Mark Fleury, JBoss [J2EE]: We are free and we don't suck. JBoss
supports all of the J2EE standards and helps Sun to write those
standards. JBoss has a services oriented architecture, a microkernel,
and a sophisticated net-boot capability. JBoss brings you unified
classloading, no more ClassNotFoundExceptions. If JBoss can't find
your class, then your class really can't be found.
I'm very impressed with Dot-Net. The method and class atributes
support Aspect Oriented Programming. JBoss does some of the same
things, adding capabilities to your classes by using attributes,
dynamic proxies, and interceptors. All of this stuff can work outside
of the JBoss platform too.
JBoss is the defacto standard. 150,000 downloads per month. App server
market share is 48% JBoss, 28% BEA, and then the others. JBoss offers
extreme stability. JBoss group is 30 people and growing fast. Some of
our references customers: EA Games SIMs online is all JBoss, Playboy
(I'm very proud of this), BASF, MITRE, McDonalds, etc. etc.
Richard Weeks, NetEdge [Dot-Net]: Customers use different
programming languages and Dot-Net supports 40-50 different languages.
Dot-Net is all about multi-language support. Those Java guys want you
to rewrite all of your code, don't do it. Don't rewrite your code, get
interoperability with web services. Dot-Net does not leave anything
behind, you can still use your old code.
Richard Lee, Borland [Dot-Net]: Open source is good, but
sometimes there is too much choice. Microsoft has learned from Java
and open source and has taken the best aspects of them and has built
them into Dot-Net. Borland knows how good Dot-Net is because Dot-Net
made it possible for us to build products very quickly. Our Dot-Net
products come out of our Rapid Application Development (RAD) group
because they are so rapid. Dot-Net makes things so easy, Microsoft is
not the dark side, they are our friends.
Q1: What sets your platform apart?
Sam Shim, Sun [J2EE]: Our vision has always been "the network
is the computer". We have been active in open source software with
Open Office, Netbeans, and Apache. J2ME is everywhere. Java is
everywhere from cars, computers, and phones to rings, smart cards,
etc. Java makes true end-to-end computing possible. Our innovation
continues with the N1 project which promises complete virtualization
of resources, ORION to solve maintenance and upgrade problems, and
Madhatter to bring Linux and open source to the desktop.
Greg Ackerman, IBM [J2EE]: The things that set J2EE apart are
openness, standards, and choice. The things that set Websphere apart
are scalability/TCO, web services, comprehensiveness, dev support,
business partner support, support for open source, and most
importantly community.
Mark Fleury, JBoss [J2EE]: Everybody brags about open source.
At least Microsoft is honest about it. Microsoft does not like open
source and they say so. Sun is very hypocritical about open source.
Both Sun and Microsoft have accused JBoss of taking away the license
revenue money that drives R&D. Guilty as charged! The truth is
this: the big guys can't compete at the container level and that is
why you hear about portal this schmortal that. SOURCE CODE is what
sets us apart. The advantages of J2EE are that it is mature, free, and
ubiquitous. Dot-Net on the other hand is expensive and buggy.
Remember, JBoss wants to commoditize the app server and Microsoft
wants to commoditize the developer.
Richard Weeks, NetEdge [Dot-Net]: Dot-Net supports both managed
and unmanaged code. Dot-Net is flexible. Sometimes web service
implementations don't really follow the standard and Dot-Net helps you
to get around this by allowing you to tweak how it's implemented.
Plus, you can call COM objects. I know BEA has some Java2COM tool, but
Dot-Net's COM support is better. The SDK and the class libraries are
free and there are lots of free tools, SharpDevelop for example. You
don't need a big expensive app server because Dot-Net gives you
choices. You can use only the small parts that you need. Use your old
code, don't rewrite it.
Microsoft [Dot-Net]: Windows is the app server and Windows is
not expensive. Windows Advanced Server is only $5000. Microsoft and
IBM are driving the web services standards, not Sun. Windows is a
standards-based integration platform and platform integration gives
Dot-Net much better performance than Java. The Dot-Net developer
experience is fantastic. We've got multi-language support, the best
web application development environment ever in ASP.NET, ADO.NET, and
a strong versioning story.
REBUTTAL: Sam Shim, Sun [J2EE]: Sun was not involved in the Web
services standards because Bill Gates was playing politics. Bill made
sure that Sun did not get invited. Microsoft wants royalty based
licensing included in standards. Microsoft wants to charge for every
packet of information and monopolize the internet.
Q2: show and tell how you support web services?
Greg Ackerman, IBM [J2EE]: Websphere supports "on demand"
computing which allows you to compose your applications as reusable
services. Let's look at a demo of creating a web services using
Websphere Studio (shows an AVI animation of Websphere Studio). Let's
build a stock quote web service. You can build in Websphere Studio and
then use a Dot-Net client to access the web service.
Mark Fleury, JBoss [J2EE]: This is when I go Phbbbbtbphphppph
(makes a loud farting sound with his lips). Web services is totally
vendor driven and all hype, but JBoss supports it fully. We integrate
Axis. I don't have much else to say. Let me ask you some questions.
How many people do Java and have a Java app in production? (20 or 30
people raise their hands) How many people do Dot-Net and have a
Dot-Net app in production? (20 or 30 people raise hands) How
many people have a app that uses both Dot-Net and Java at the same
time? (nobody raises their hands) See? This
interoperability stuff is just vendor noise. You need to avoid
serialization and avoid RMI and remember SOAP is the biggest dog of
them all. B2B will not work. I worked with SAP once and found that
these guys can't even create a common object model across one company.
B2B vendors are never going to be able to create object models that
cross industries.
Richard Lee, Borland [Dot-Net]: Let's use Control Center to
create a web services. You just set the project type to C# and you are
off. You can add a class using UML notation and the code is
generated automatically. If you change the code, the diagram changes.
If you change the diagram, the code changes. You can use a wizard to
make any object into a web service.
Kenny Jones, MS [Dot-Net]: Analysts say that Microsoft has the
best support for Web services. We support web services through our
entire product line from Office, MS SQL, and MSMQ, to BizTalk, Excel,
etc. Look at you you do web services in Dot-Net Studio. You just add
an attribute to your object and it becomes a web services. Let's look
at how you use a web service in Dot-Net studio. You just add a "web
reference" and then you have a proxy object that you can use to call a
web service.
Sam Shin, Sun [J2EE]: Web services is like teenage sex:
everybody talks about it but nobody is doing it. There are three
phases of web services adoption: 1) simple (now), 2) Enterprise
Application Integration (beginning) and 3) Business web services
(2004). #3 is the most important and Sun will support it through
J2EE, UBL, ebXML, and the Liberty Alliance. It is very easy to
create web services by exposing EJBs, here is how you do it in
Netbeans (shows a wizard).
REBUTTAL: Greg Ackerman, IBM [J2EE]: the analysts are mixed on
who is the leader in web services. Some say Microsoft and some say
IBM. IBM does web services for many more customers than Microsoft
does.
REBUTTAL: Mark Fleury, JBoss [J2EE]: IBM is much better
on standards than MS.
REBUTTAL: Microsoft [Dot-Net]: J2EE support for web
services is irrelevant. App server vendors and open source software is
pushing web services much harder than Sun.
Q3: how do you support building apps for hundreds of thousands of
users?
Mark Fleury, JBoss [J2EE]: To support big applications you need
grid computing, but grids are too expansive when you must pay for
software licenses. You also need caching and JBoss has great support
for caching. Don't use serialization. Use caching. Also, you need to
integrate the stack within one virtual machine. Dow Jones uses
JBoss to support 10,000 clients.
Richard Lee, Borland [Dot-Net]: How do you build N-Tier
apps? You need to use modeling and code generation. You need to
use Model Driven Architecture (MDA). Here is a demo of MDA in Together
Control Center.
Kenny Jones, MS [Dot-Net]: We support this by the scalability
of the Windows platform with load balancing, clustering, and caching
built into ASP.Net that allows you to easily cache pages and portions
of pages. Also with distributed session state and the ADO disconnected
data set. You need technology, but you also need the knowledge and you
can get teh knowledge from the MSDN program and Microsoft Patterns and
Practices. Look at all of these customers who use Microsoft to support
giant customer bases Merril Lynch, London stock Exchange, etc.). To
summarize, the platform is scalable and the knowledge is
available.
Sam Shin, Sun [J2EE]: Java has the scalability. Sun has 64-bit
support in the Java VM. When will Microsoft have that? One VM can
scale up to 100 processors, X RAM, and X threads. Tremendous
scalability of just one Java VM. J2EE is all about scalability and
reliability. J2EE vendors compete on scalability and reliability to
benefit you. Dot-Net is constrained by Windows, Dot-Net is not
proven, Dot-Net is single-vendor lock-in. Why should you be the
Dot-Net guinea pig?
Greg Ackerman, IBM [J2EE]: IBM has a great deal of experience
in distributed computing (CORBA, Encina, etc.). J2EE is designed
for this stuff. Remember the case studies. Java and VMs
are scalable.
REBUTTAL: Microsoft [Dot-Net]: The analysts say that
portability across J2EE app servers is going to become more and more
difficult. Java app servers do contain vendor lock-in features.
Java allows you to scale to bigger more expensive hardware. With
Dot-Net you won't need to do that, you can stick with the hardware you
already have.
REBUTTAL: Mark Fleury, JBoss [J2EE]: The EJB spec does not give
you what you need to scale, you need the cache. The spec is fighting
the implementation here. J2EE is not moving fast enough. We need
Aspect Oriented Programming, from Xerox, where all good things
emanate. Dot-Net does not have what it takes here either: ADO sucks
and Dot-Net caching is not there.
Q4: explain your platform's security system?
Richard Weeks, NetEdge [Dot-Net]: Dot-Net provides code-access
security. This allows you to say where what a piece of code is allowed
to do. For example, if you have a consultant that you don't trust, you
can lock his code down so that it does not threaten you. Encryption is
built in. ASP.Net has forms based security. No more buffer
overflows because of the Dot-Net runtime. Microsoft is putting a big
emphasis on integrated securty.
Kenny Jones, MS [Dot-Net]: Windows security vulnerability is a
myth. Security is an industry wide problem, not Microsoft
problem. Windows has fewer CERT security advisories than Sun or
Redhat. Microsoft has a serious "trustworthy computing" initiative
going on. Microsoft won the Open Hack 4.0 contest. Let me
show you how code that is downloaded from the internet is treated
differently than code that lives on your hard-drive. See: this
downloaded code is not allowed to run.
Sam Shim, Sun [J2EE]: Security IS a Microsoft problem. Security
must be built-in from the beginning. You cannot just bolt it on as an
afterthought. Look at the passport fiasco. Microsoft's Passport
identity management system was centralized, single-point-of-failure,
controlled by Microsoft, and single point-of-attack. No wonder
everybody hated it and it failed. The Liberty Alliance on the
other hand is a federated system, much better. There are 52,000
viruses for Windows and the analysts say it is time to switch away
from Windows based web servers. Viruses are very expensive. The ILOVEU
virus costs us $1 billion dollars. NIMBDA costs $2.6 billion.
Recently, Microsoft's Craig Mundie said "we've been thinking about
security for almost three years now." Microsoft has been in
business for 27 years. It took them 24 years to realized that security
is important.
Greg Ackerman, IBM [J2EE]: Good for Microsoft! They finally
realize that security is important, but security needs to be built-in
from the start. Look at Dot-Net security: sandboxing,
code-access security, not exactly novel concepts. Dot-Net security is
just a copy of Java security. IBM is cooperating with Microsoft
on Web services security.
Mark Fleury, JBoss [J2EE]: UNIX has had better security than
Windows for many years. Security cannot be bolted on. Java
security is excellent. JBoss did JAAS security years ago, before all
of the other app server vendors. JBoss can also use interceptors
to add additional security.
REBUTTAL: Sam Shin, Sun [J2EE]: Microsoft FUD #9 is that
Dot-Net is secure. Dot-Net depends on COM+ which is not managed code
and is therefore unsecure. C# permits unsafe and unsecure code.
Passport has already been hacked.
Closing Statements
MS [Dot-Net]: Let's take a look at what it takes to build a
mobile web app, one with an adaptive UI that looks different depending
on which device you use to access it. Let me cut-and-paste some code
here and let's try to run it. Oh no, the Dot-Net server is not
responding (his computer appears to lock-up). Analysts say that
C# is going to be the number #1 language in two years.
Mark Fleury, JBoss [J2EE]: C# to be the #1 language in two
years? You're freaking kidding me. Dot-Net has some good features, but
multi-language support is just cute, no more. Without portability off
of the Windows platform, Dot-Net will go nowhere.
Sam Shim, Sun [J2EE]: Java is the most powerful development
technology ever. There are 3 million Java developers, 65 million
Java enabled phones, 8 million lines of Java source contributed to
open source, etc. etc. The development resources are all free: open
source software is almost all Java, tutorials, knowledge base,
community!
Greg Ackerman, IBM [J2EE]: C# is great, very Java like.
Make the rational choice (no pun intended). VB.Net has a big learning
curve, even for veteran VB programmers. C# does too, so why
don't you just go directly to Java. We will welcome you into the
community. Come on out the the Websphere Users Group and the Java
Users Group meetings in the Park.
Mark Fleury, JBoss [J2EE]: JBoss is a responsible, moral,
and open player. Let JBoss be the standard, not Dot-Net or J2EE.
Richard Weeks, NetEdge [Dot-Net]: We keep hearing about free
this and free that. Open source is not free. Support costs
money. Multi-language is not just a cute feature. Each language
has it's own unique advantages and disadvantages. C# and Java are
different. C# is better.
Does J2EE live up to hype?
Does J2EE live up to hype?
09/09/2002 10:39 PMCNET Sep 9 2002 10:11PM ET
Dynamically Typed: J2EE Guy Still
Doesn't Get PHP
Dynamically Typed: J2EE Guy Still
Doesn't Get PHP
07/01/2004 08:47 AMDynamically
Typed has a new entry concerning the past post about
Friendster going PHP, and how
the J2EE
guy still doesn't get it.
J2EE Polls Component
J2EE Polls Component
02/12/2004 03:40 PMv2.5.1
J2EE 'grossly unreliable'
J2EE 'grossly unreliable'
12/02/2003 01:18 AMAccording to a survey published by performance testing company Wily
Technology, applications that run on the J2EE ...
Sun readies J2EE 1.4, app server
Sun readies J2EE 1.4, app server
11/14/2003 05:14 PMNew version will enable the use of Web services in Java applications.
J2EE Design Patterns
J2EE Design Patterns
12/02/2003 01:27 AMDoes J2EE live up to expectations?
Does J2EE live up to expectations?
09/06/2002 10:43 PMCNET Sep 6 2002 10:06PM ET
Grok Description matches for Partners, Rivals Fall in Line with Sun's J2EE 1.4
GrokA matches for Partners, Rivals Fall in Line with Sun's J2EE 1.4
Partners, Rivals Fall in Line with Sun's J2EE 1.4
