inluminent: Quoteblogs vs. Linkblogs
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04/24/2004 06:36 PMA few days ago, Jonathan Greene asked about 'quoting' as a standard proctice. I don't
like the practice of quoting entire posts in a weblog, because it
turns the original author's post into someone else's post, without any
work or effort.
Quoteblogs = Theft
I consider full post quoting without quotes tantamount to theft.
Weblogs that do this henceforth shall be knows as Quoteblogs.
I first encountered full post quoting on Don Strickland's weblog a long time
ago (can't find a good old reference post though). My first reaction
to the full
quote of one of my posts was thinking that DWS stole
my post... lock, stock and barrel. I didn't know much about
weblogging then, and still don't know Don through more than a few
emails (though we both live in Austin and should meet up somewhere
down the road). I don't consider Don a thief, but, in general do feel
as if quoting entire articles or posts on the web, even with
attribution, is somewhat analogous to theft.
I feel like whole post quoting without commenting is theft because,
the original author is potentially left with less readers, and for
people new to reading weblogs, they're left with a sense of 'who wrote
this'.
To be fair to Don, h
e doesn't normally lift posts in full, but he does do it. Every once and a while he does the more responsible
thing and quotes a small portion of a weblog post and points the
reader back to the original source.
Robert Scoble has a
quoteblog where he normally lifts
entire posts from other weblogs and emails he's received. The problem
with this practice is that the reader might miss the connection
between what's being posted on Scoble's quoteblog and the original
author. Also, Scoble is not giving the original author the benefit of
sending readers to the original weblog (or commercial website for that
matter).
Could you see me posting a full quote of great articles like this one from decafinated or this
article from the NYTimes on my weblog without commenting on them
and only with a small attribution at the bottom as a responsible thing
to do?
Scoble's has pointed out before that we
should link to people, not to steal from people. Quoting on a
'aggregator blog' as Scoble
calls his Quoteblog is responsible for indivudals and teams as a
knowledge management feature, but should not be publicly accessible,
if that's what it's used for, as the end effect is theft.
Responsible Quoting
Doug, over at the
SBB, commented on my last post that he sees a place for
quoting in weblogs, and I completely agree with him. I quote things
all the time, but, I always try to keep my quoting as minimal as
possible, and to comment on the thing I'm writing about, so as to add
my perspective to the thing I'm quoting and linking to for my
audience.
Doug does quoting well on his weblog.
This, to me is the best practice to follow, when webloggers want to
quote and point to another post or article that they feel should be
read by the blogger's audience.
I feel like established webloggers have a responsibility to set the
'best practices' for others that will surely follow in the weblogging
world. In that respect, I think Scoble and Don have failed, at times,
in the past to responsibly quote posts.
Linkblogs
Linkblogs are the responsible way to point readers to interesting
things to read, and are what I'd like to see become the way that
responsible bloggers start sending traffic to other writers,
especially when they want to link to things, but don't have time to
write full posts, or think of snarky comments to add to something
they'd like to quote.
I've started my own linkblog, as an
example, and am using Movable
Type to do it. It's just another weblog on my standard MT
install. I've set up the body entry to hold the URL of what I'm
linking to, and the Excerpt entry to by my snarky comment on that URL,
if I have one. As usual, I'm providing my linkblog
templates for free to anyone that wants to steal this idea and the
templates.
A real benefit (in my mind) to my readers is that my linkblog is
searchable, just like my weblog: search
inluminent for 'coloring'.
In Review
Public Quoteblogs are bad. Examples: Scoble's Quoteblog
Responsible quoting is good. Example: Small Business
Blog, Paul Beard.
Linkblogs are great instead of Quoteblogs. Examples:
Mark's
b-links
Jeremy Zawodny's
linkblog
Here's a good one from
Erik.
And lastly, del.icio.us, is nothing
but linkblogs.
Also...
Angie McKaig solves her need to link to others for her readers with
her "Assorted Sweets" posts [example].
Decafbad does this with his Quicklinks posts.
Readers, aggregators, linkbl0gs and
another approach
Readers, aggregators, linkbl0gs and
another approach
12/11/2003 10:55 AM
Some things are starting to fit into place. From the art
icle above, it's clear now that the difference between readers and
aggregators isn't new, it goes back to the difference between
My.Netscape and My.UserLand. In the former, each
feed was considered its own independent thing; My.UserLand flowed
all feeds into one flow. (My.UserLand migrated<
/a> to become the aggregator in Radio.) To me (and I've said this
before) the My.UserLand approach is more leveraged for the human,
because the former approach still makes you go somewhere to
find the new stuff. True, the "somewhere" is all in one app,
but it's still work you have to do, instead of the computer.
Then another dichotomy is exposed. Quite a few Movable Type
bloggers start things called linkblogs, or remaindered links, whatever
you call them, they're working around the model of longish posts with
lots of visual overhead (a model also implemented by Blogger, Manila
and Radio, so this isn't a dig on MT). What if you just want to link
to something, should that require a whole post with all its
attributes? It's a matter of user interface in the end. If MT made it
easy to post and update a news item that was link-blog-like, people
wouldn't need to invent a way around it. But that would break the
relationship between the feed and posts. Oy what a mess.
Now look at this page carefully. See how posts of all sizes
mix? It seems to work. The only thing missing is titles for posts
(you'll see why I need them, in some cases, later today). But a
right-click menu makes it possible to give a post a title.
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inluminent: Quoteblogs vs. Linkblogs
