Save the Prudential Building!

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Save time, save effort, save money

Save time, save effort, save money 05/28/2004 04:57 PM
CNET Asia May 28 2004 9:16PM GMT

Prudential has its fill of Egg

Prudential has its fill of Egg 01/16/2004 11:02 AM
Shares in loss-making online bank Egg jump by 36%, after its parent company says it may sell up.

Kyocera to Pay Prudential Units

Kyocera to Pay Prudential Units 12/24/2003 04:08 AM
Boston Globe Dec 24 2003 3:10AM ET

Prudential to set up regional datacentre
here

Prudential to set up regional datacentre
here 08/11/2004 04:50 AM
The Star Online Aug 11 2004 9:08AM GMT

Prudential Raises Lucent Estimate

Prudential Raises Lucent Estimate 06/29/2004 10:50 AM
TheStreet.com Jun 29 2004 1:59PM GMT

Prudential considers in-house move

Prudential considers in-house move 03/31/2005 09:13 AM
Infomaticsonline.co.uk - Thu Mar 31, 11:21 am GMT

Prudential sees Intel lowering top-end
of Q3 rev. view

Prudential sees Intel lowering top-end
of Q3 rev. view 08/31/2004 10:10 AM
FXStreet.com Aug 31 2004 2:18PM GMT

Prudential expects longer G5 chip delay

Prudential expects longer G5 chip delay 08/16/2004 04:31 PM
Prudential Equity Group said the availability of PowerPC G5 chips for Apple could be "worse than anticipated" due to manufacturing delays from IBM...

Prudential removes Bloomer as chief exec

Prudential removes Bloomer as chief exec 03/25/2005 06:48 AM
Seattletimes.nwsource.com - Thu Mar 24, 07:00 pm GMT

Prudential sets the benchmark for
outsourcing plans

Prudential sets the benchmark for
outsourcing plans 03/31/2005 11:46 AM
Personal Computer World Mar 31 2005 3:54PM GMT

Financial Scandal: Prudential Buried in
Snail Mail Barrage

Financial Scandal: Prudential Buried in
Snail Mail Barrage 11/05/2003 03:36 PM
Techfocus Nov 5 2003 3:21PM ET

Micromuse to Present at the Prudential
Silicon Valley Software Summit

Micromuse to Present at the Prudential
Silicon Valley Software Summit 05/19/2004 07:18 AM
dBusinessNews.com May 19 2004 11:49AM GMT

Bush to end steel tariffs; Intel raises
sales forecast; Prudential sees profit
rising in 2004

Bush to end steel tariffs; Intel raises
sales forecast; Prudential sees profit
rising in 2004 12/04/2003 07:13 PM
Forbes Dec 4 2003 6:51PM ET

America's Man in the White House
Continues to Lie Like a Thief and Our
Soldiers Continue to Die: When Will the
Spoiled, Lying, Rich Kid Be Held
Accountable? Save the Nation. Save Our
Soldiers. Impeach and Prosecute Bush and
Cheney for High Crimes

America's Man in the White House
Continues to Lie Like a Thief and Our
Soldiers Continue to Die: When Will the
Spoiled, Lying, Rich Kid Be Held
Accountable? Save the Nation. Save Our
Soldiers. Impeach and Prosecute Bush and
Cheney for High Crimes 11/02/2003 06:30 AM

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How Much Should You Save?

How Much Should You Save? 01/23/2004 04:14 PM
Depends if you're single, scared, or have a significant other.

How to save the FCC?

How to save the FCC? 06/22/2004 09:06 AM
ZDNet Jun 22 2004 1:27PM GMT

Save the HST!

Save the HST! 07/16/2004 01:43 AM
Usatoday.com - Wed Jul 14, 08:58 am GMT

How to save the FCC

How to save the FCC 06/22/2004 09:06 AM
ZDNet Jun 22 2004 1:19PM GMT

Save us all

Save us all 10/28/2003 11:09 PM
This is a somewhat onimous commercial clip of our governor-elect. Is this what the future brings? Oh, and this one...

Do You Want to Save Your Changes?

Do You Want to Save Your Changes? 06/18/2004 02:44 PM

Web apps are great, but they have interface problems. A Web-based interface is just never going to be as rich as a traditional client-server app. Spolsky alluded to this in a post I made yesterday. HTML can really go just so far before you run into limitations. Here's a big one:

That's a pretty common dialogue box, but very hard to do on the Web. Picture this:

Joe User has just spent 20 minutes in the article editing interface of your Web-based content management app. He's worked over this article until it's just perfect, laboring intensively over every word. Then he accidentally hits Refresh and it's all gone. Joe is not happy.

That's the problem with Web forms — there's no real way to stop the user from screwing themselves this way.

After they start work on the form content, they can (1) click a link and navigate away from the page, (2) press the Reset button on the form (never put these on your forms — think about it: when was the last time you used one), (3) close the browser, (4) refresh the page, etc. There's any number of things they can do to wipe out their form data, and it's very hard to stop them. I know this because I tried...

I set out this morning to try and minimize these risks in an app I'm developing. I come away from this process pretty convinced that it's not practical. Here's what I tried to do:

In my page, I bound a JavaScript function to the unload event:

window.onunload = warn_if_form_dirty;

This means the "warn_if_form_dirty" function will run whenever the current page leaves the browser window for any reason. Note that you can't stop the event — the page is leaving no matter what, but you can do a few things before it goes. (If you could actually stop the page from unloading, then pop-up advertisers would have a field day with it.)

I also set two variables:

form_dirty = false;
warn_onunload = true;

The first variable indicates whether or not the form data is "dirty" — whether it's been changed since they loaded the page. The second variable indicates whether or not we should warn them that they're going to lose their data. When should we NOT warn them? When they submit the form. Remember that the unload event fires whenever the page unloads, even if it's because they submit, in which case they WANT it to unload.

I added this to all my form fields:

onchange="form_dirty=true;"

So whenever a form field changes, the "dirty" switch is flipped. And I added this to my FORM tag:

onsubmit="warn_onunload=false;"

Because, remember, if they submit the form, I don't want to warn them. In this case the unload event is fine.

Then I wrote the actual function that will run when they attempt to navigate away from the page while the form is dirty:

function warn_if_form_dirty()
{
if(warn_onunload == true && form_dirty == true)
{
alert('WARNING: You have chosen to navigate away from this page.  You have UNSAVED CHANGES in this form.  If you want to save these changes, click the Back button on your browser to return to your changes and press the "Save" button.');
}
}

So, the system works something like this:

1. User loads the page and starts working. "form_dirty" is false, because no changes have been made. "warn_onunload" is true because we want to warn them.


2. User changes some form data. When this happens "form_dirty" is now true because they have done some work and are at risk of losing it.


3. User accidentally hits the Refresh button (stupid user...). The onunload event fires, the "warn_if_form_dirty" function runs. It finds that both "form_dirty" and "warn_onunload" are true, so it pops the warning.

The warning, for its part, basically says, "you may have screwed up, and here's how to fix it if you want." Remember that I can't stop the event. It would be nice if I could, but the potential for abuse is huge, so you can't. All I can do is tell them what they did, and how to fix it.

The problem: the advice isn't always true.

It would be nice if you could always hit Back and get back to your data, but this turned out to be a lie. I tried it on a number of machines here in the office, and whether or not this is true depends on the browser and on the cache settings.

It seemed to work on Mozilla and Firefox all the time, but IE was fussy. For some people it worked, but for others, IE pulled the page fresh every time. It didn't work more often than it did.

So I come away from his experiment thinking that fighting this scenario is a losing battle. If you're on an intranet, and everyone is using IE with loose security, you could conceivably do some ActiveX mojo to head it off, but that isn't an option for me.

A possible solution: browser developers should build this functionality into the browser. They should detect whenever a user (not script) has changed form data and warn the user if they try to unload the page. Let the user choose to continue or cancel the unload.

If anyone else has thoughts on theories on this subject, I'd love to hear them.

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Mac Tip: Save as PDF

Mac Tip: Save as PDF 07/16/2004 06:47 PM
G4 Tech TV Jul 16 2004 11:06PM GMT

Save TV From/With Broadband

Save TV From/With Broadband 06/08/2004 03:49 PM
A recent survey in Europe has suggested that the rise of broadband use is causing people to watch less TV. And if the trend continues, TV networks will probably have to adapt by using broadband connections to make TV more engaging to audiences. The ground has already been broken with people voting for contestants in reality shows like American Idol. So it's just a matter of making TV even more interactive, and incorporating the creative use of digital communication (email, IM, video capture, etc) is just around the corner.

save your posts? why not

save your posts? why not 03/17/2005 03:20 AM
the simplest ideas are usually the best ones. Its easy to forget that the internet is a relatively new medium. Whats the bet that in the future that we will all be wishing that we still had all of our content that we contributed to "cyberspace" such as reviews, comments, posts... Who knows if 10 - 15 years from now, if the sites we post on will still be up, even stable sites such as MetaFilter may not exist in the future. sites have shut down before, taking everyones content with it. Its a simple idea, why not just store your content, be it on your desktop or a web application? So who wants to start a MeFi label over at bulletin board buddy.

SAVE THE DATE!

SAVE THE DATE! 07/11/2004 01:48 PM
Creative Commons will be hosting a book party to celebrate Dan Gillmor's new book, We the Media, which (the good) O'Reilly is publishing, and which will also be available under a Creative Commons license. The date is July 30, in the evening. More details soon. Creative Commons will be hosting a book party to celebrate Dan Gillmor's new book, We the Media, which (the good) O'Reilly is publishing, and which will also be available under a Creative Commons license. (They never got around to having a book party for my book. Oh well. They're busy.) The date is July 30, in the evening. More details soon.

Save Our Sandcrawler

Save Our Sandcrawler 04/29/2004 01:49 AM
Disappointed by Target’s cancellation of the Jawa Sandcrawler? Frustrated that this long awaited treasure seems to be slipping through our fingers like so much Tatooine sand? Looking for a way to tell a would be buyer how much you want this toy, and perhaps help turn the tide? Have I got the forum thread for you...

DataRescue X Can Save The Day

DataRescue X Can Save The Day 03/13/2003 10:17 AM
I've posted my review of DataRescue X. If you're one of those people who have skipped a few backups, seriously consider getting this program. It is top notch.

Option-Shift K Apple Hacker Swag!

Save Your Portfolio

Save Your Portfolio 08/11/2004 12:08 PM
Tired of watching your portfolio twist in the wind? Tom Gardner has another way.

"Save the Children"

"Save the Children" 01/01/2005 10:39 AM

Will porn save 3G?

Will porn save 3G? 05/05/2004 08:10 AM

Will porn save 3G? Vodaphone seems to think so.

International Herald Tribune - Pornographers to ring up more profit

Antoin doesn't think so. I agree with his analysis.

Save My Modem

Save My Modem 03/15/2003 01:28 PM
0.18 - fixes

Save the Whales! Then What?

Save the Whales! Then What? 08/16/2004 07:56 PM
Some whale populations are on the rebound. Can they be both protected and eaten?

Auto save, anyone?

Auto save, anyone? 03/14/2005 05:38 PM
I feel Adam's pain! The TEXTAREA does generally suck. Maybe someone will come up with a great ajax application for...

Save Money on Gas

Save Money on Gas 06/02/2004 08:23 AM
There are painless ways to keep gas costs under control.

Save The Penguins

Save The Penguins 02/10/2004 02:56 PM
Project Approved.

Let the Quakes Save Themselves

Let the Quakes Save Themselves 08/19/2004 02:53 PM
My newspaper's editorial page wants to keep San Jose's local soccer team, the Earthqu akes, in town. Fine. But my colleagues also seem to want the taxpayers to help the fabulously wealthy owners of the team, the Anschutz Group, with the cost of a new stadium. Let the Anschutz family pay for its own stadium.

"Save the Children UK"

"Save the Children UK" 01/04/2005 05:59 PM

Save My Screen

Save My Screen 11/05/2003 03:36 PM
I've been working on the Panther update for FruitMenu, and was planning to add an option to invoke a screen...

What It Really Means to Save

What It Really Means to Save 05/25/2004 02:43 PM
A simple story from the other side of the world shows how everyday dreams come true.

Save on .Mac Renewals

Save on .Mac Renewals 10/07/2004 04:11 PM

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